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tccrab · 03-31-2009

Kurt:

Mistakes happen.

Did the tuner stand behind his work and offer to make good on your motor?
What's the story?

The reason I ask is because my neighbor has a '66 Jag that he just last week blew the motor for the 2nd time.
6 or 8 months ago, he dropped a piston, and had sent the motor to a Jag specialist for a rebuild.
The rebuilt motor made it about the same mileage that yours did before the oil pressure went to 10psi.
Some kind of debris lodged in an oil galley somewhere found it's way into #1 main and "bye bye bottom end".
The tuner asked him to ship it back so that he could inspect it and providing that the failure was related to the rebuild, he would rebuild it for free.
Seems like a perfectly reasonably thing for a tuner that wants to keep his reputation would do.
Of course all bets are off if the motor was incorrectly broken in, or abused/mistreated.

TomC
"Crabs"

USAFPILOT · 03-31-2009

Why cant you put it back together? If all those parts are still good? Block Heads etc.

03-31-2009

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Originally Posted by USAFPILOT

Why cant you put it back together? If all those parts are still good? Block Heads etc.

Ever gotten soured on a project because it has taken more money and more time and has just pissed you off?

rhipsher · 03-31-2009

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Originally Posted by Jeffvette

Ever gotten soured on a project because it has taken more money and more time and has just pissed you off?

Yep! That would definitely take the wind out of my sails. That makes all of my ZR-1 related problems seem small.

Pete · 03-31-2009

Kurt,that sucks bro.

Is that a picture of a freeze plug missing in the crank,if so that's twice i see it from same builder.

Just a thought for the rest of you, just because it sounds and talks like a race car driver or performance engine builder, most likely it's not.

Only a few hillbillies are good race car drivers or performance engine builders the rest of them are just profesional hilbillies,period.
Out to grab a buck.

Pete

GOLDCYLON · 03-31-2009

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Originally Posted by Jeffvette

Ever gotten soured on a project because it has taken more money and more time and has just pissed you off?

At least once or twice and its damn disheartning

cvette · 03-31-2009

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pete

Just a thought for the rest of you, just because it sounds and talks like a race car driver or performance engine builder, most likely it's not.

Only a few hillbillies are good race car drivers or performance engine builders the rest of them are just profesional hilbillies,period.
Out to grab a buck.

Pete

Do you know of another such person Pete?

C

Zr1 Destroyer · 03-31-2009

Whoa........was the rubber o-ring(crank snout/oil pump) missed on the build....if so that will cause MAJOR oil pressure issues.

Also was the oil pick-up o-ring installed in the pan?

Zr1 Destroyer · 03-31-2009

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Originally Posted by limey

None other than kirchoeffer.

"Wrong Bearing Billy" is back at it again eah......I'll have to point nj out to this thread!!!

rhipsher · 03-31-2009

It took him 3 years to build that motor? Is that a normal build time for a 368. Or did he have to many other projects going on? Don't most tuners give you some kind of warrenty? Lingenfelter gives you 2 years or 24,000 miles and a normal build time of 4 to 5 weeks. Unless I'm missing something here. I wouldn't take it to somebody who didn't have a good reputation building trick LT5's. If his build caused the burned up bearing/crank then he should refund your money so you can take it to somebody more competent. If I built a motor like that for a customer and the same thing happened I would feel horrible about it. And I would make it right. What did this Kir? whatever his name is tell you. That it was to bad? And that it wasn't his problem anymore or something? I'd be fighting made over that. $20,000? And a three year wait? And only get to drive it 8 stinking miles before that happened? After the depression wore off I'd be steamed and ready to do something about it.

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tccrab Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Folsom CA Posts: 1,654	Re: What would cause this major catastrophe Kurt: Mistakes happen. Did the tuner stand behind his work and offer to make good on your motor? What's the story? The reason I ask is because my neighbor has a '66 Jag that he just last week blew the motor for the 2nd time. 6 or 8 months ago, he dropped a piston, and had sent the motor to a Jag specialist for a rebuild. The rebuilt motor made it about the same mileage that yours did before the oil pressure went to 10psi. Some kind of debris lodged in an oil galley somewhere found it's way into #1 main and "bye bye bottom end". The tuner asked him to ship it back so that he could inspect it and providing that the failure was related to the rebuild, he would rebuild it for free. Seems like a perfectly reasonably thing for a tuner that wants to keep his reputation would do. Of course all bets are off if the motor was incorrectly broken in, or abused/mistreated. TomC "Crabs" __________________ TomC '90ZR1 #792 Honorary Pirate [B]If it ain't FUN, you're doing something terribly WRONG. [/B] Last edited by tccrab; 03-31-2009 at 12:33 PM.

03-31-2009	#12
USAFPILOT Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Spring TX Posts: 1,348	Re: What would cause this major catastrophe Why cant you put it back together? If all those parts are still good? Block Heads etc.

03-31-2009	#15
Pete Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Chicagoland,IL Posts: 2,679	Re: What would cause this major catastrophe Kurt,that sucks bro. Is that a picture of a freeze plug missing in the crank,if so that's twice i see it from same builder. Just a thought for the rest of you, just because it sounds and talks like a race car driver or performance engine builder, most likely it's not. Only a few hillbillies are good race car drivers or performance engine builders the rest of them are just profesional hilbillies,period. Out to grab a buck. Pete __________________ '91 #1635 PoloGreen 350 LT5 11.09 @ 129.27 11.04 @ 128.86 474RWHP 400RWTQ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SFNFOhGGlR4 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZlRIOMwaDYY https://sites.google.com/site/peteszr1garage

03-31-2009	#18
Zr1 Destroyer Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Candy Apple...yUmMy Posts: 1,137	Re: What would cause this major catastrophe Whoa........was the rubber o-ring(crank snout/oil pump) missed on the build....if so that will cause MAJOR oil pressure issues. Also was the oil pick-up o-ring installed in the pan? Last edited by Zr1 Destroyer; 03-31-2009 at 10:00 PM.

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rhipsher Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Houston 90 Red ZR-1 Posts: 2,320	Re: What would cause this major catastrophe It took him 3 years to build that motor? Is that a normal build time for a 368. Or did he have to many other projects going on? Don't most tuners give you some kind of warrenty? Lingenfelter gives you 2 years or 24,000 miles and a normal build time of 4 to 5 weeks. Unless I'm missing something here. I wouldn't take it to somebody who didn't have a good reputation building trick LT5's. If his build caused the burned up bearing/crank then he should refund your money so you can take it to somebody more competent. If I built a motor like that for a customer and the same thing happened I would feel horrible about it. And I would make it right. What did this Kir? whatever his name is tell you. That it was to bad? And that it wasn't his problem anymore or something? I'd be fighting made over that. $20,000? And a three year wait? And only get to drive it 8 stinking miles before that happened? After the depression wore off I'd be steamed and ready to do something about it. Last edited by rhipsher; 03-31-2009 at 11:39 PM.