C7 ZR breaks cover

[XfireZ51]

Hans,

U know and I know that the Corvette will never be taken seriously until it gets a proper powerplant, which today would include a hybrid. But a truck motor ain’t going to get the job done. Its why McLellan did what he did.
U can get prodigious amounts of torque from a diesel motor too but ....
Any thought of producing a mid engine will need to include a modern motor configuration full stop otherwise its a Fiero.

[Paul Workman]

Originally Posted by Ccmano

While I agree that ideally the LT5 moniker should be reserved for a more “special” engine. Every time I get in my 08 LS3 I am reminded of the easy power and torque these engines put out. I simply have a Vararam cold air intake and a canned tune, I make 400 rwhp. There is gobs of torque through the entire power band. That’s not even the current generation of engines.

I guess I’m saying that they really don’t need to do anything exotic to get large amounts of reliable power. Sure I would luv to see high reving twin cam, vvt, direct injected, twin charged etc. engine. H

No replacement for displacemment...

And, I think you hit it on the head, Hans: 90% of the Corvette drivers never appreciate the cars' full potential. 8000 rpm performance is in the stratosphere, far as they're concerned. Hell, in a pole a couple years back around 40% of ZR-1 owners rarely IF EVER broke into the 6000s. And, I believe GM too is fully aware of the fact.

My point is, pushrods provide all the performance 90% of the GM Camaro and pickup truck customers and (sorry ro say) Corvette owners included will ever use. The problem is, for the remaining10% of us true performance junkies, coming in second...SUCKS! And, we expect better!

[XfireZ51]

Originally Posted by Paul Workman

No replacement for displacemment...

And, I think you hit it on the head, Hans: 90% of the Corvette drivers never appreciate the cars' full potential. 8000 rpm performance is in the stratosphere, far as they're concerned. Hell, in a pole a couple years back around 40% of ZR-1 owners rarely IF EVER broke into the 6000s. And, I believe GM too is fully aware of the fact.

My point is, pushrods provide all the performance 90% of the GM Camaro and pickup truck customers and (sorry ro say) Corvette owners included will ever use. The problem is, for the remaining10% of us true performance junkies, coming in second...SUCKS! And, we expect better!

GM needs to be focusing on the next gen Corvette owner and not the one getting ready for the assisted living community w little to no garage space. The C7 may be the last Corvette that generation can support unless there’s a Corvette SUV.

[Paul Workman]

Originally Posted by XfireZ51

GM needs to be focusing on the next gen Corvette owner and not the one getting ready for the assisted living community w little to no garage space. The C7 may be the last Corvette that generation can support unless there’s a Corvette SUV.

Couldn't agree with YOU more, Dom...and don't think that don't worry me none!

Speaking for myself, I may never be able to afford a C8 ZR1 w/ or w/o a DOHC. So, like many of us, I'm looking at "plan B": Get the Greek to put more shine on my beloved LT5! But, it is still going to be disappointing to see Corvette taking a back seat in the tests of true performance (Le Manns, et al).

It took the LT5 to break some eggs w/ GM once; rub their noses in "it", as it were. Too bad the boardroom maybe didn't learn anything from history. Hope I'm wrong...I'd love to be wrong.

Back to (FBI) reality: Plan B really ain't bad at all, come to think of it!!

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[Ccmano]

Guys this whole discussion will likely be mute in the not to distant future. As I am fond of pointing out. The 2025 EPA emissions regulations virtually kill the internal combustion engine. Our beloved Corvette, if it still exists in a world of autonomous vehicles, will be an EV like all the rest. Between now and then I simply hope that GM continues the policy of providing at least 2 levels of Corvette. A relatively affordable “everymans” model for Paul’s 90%. And an exotic model to carry the banner for American technology and Dom’s 10%.
H

[WARP TEN]

Looks to me that the designers are shooting for the Mitsu Evo crowd....Bob

[Paul Workman]

Originally Posted by Ccmano

Guys this whole discussion will likely be mute in the not to distant future. As I am fond of pointing out. The 2025 EPA emissions regulations virtually kill the internal combustion engine. Our beloved Corvette, if it still exists in a world of autonomous vehicles, will be an EV like all the rest. Between now and then I simply hope that GM continues the policy of providing at least 2 levels of Corvette. A relatively affordable “everymans” model for Paul’s 90%. And an exotic model to carry the banner for American technology and Dom’s 10%.
H

"Paul's 90% group"? Oh, hell no! No "WAXER" here!! I'm with Dom's "10" - along with you and many others here, I recon. (Thar ain't no steeeking pushrod Corvettes in MY garage...yet! (However, I would allow a C6Z06!)

But, if I win the lottery, and there ain't no new screaming DOHC, mid-engine Corvette by then, I may have to consider the F-F-F...Ford GT (or the like) in order to get my high rev "FIX".

[1991KOTH]

Originally Posted by Paul Workman

"Paul's 90% group"? Oh, hell no! No "WAXER" here!! I'm with Dom's "10" - along with you and many others here, I recon. (Thar ain't no steeeking pushrod Corvettes in MY garage...yet! (However, I would allow a C6Z06!)



But, if I win the lottery, and there ain't no new screaming DOHC, mid-engine Corvette by then, I may have to consider the F-F-F...Ford GT (or the like) in order to get my high rev "FIX".

Just traded my c5 z for a cyber grey 09 z06. The ls7 is a beast. But there is nothing like the lt5.

If I won the lottery, I would probably swap in that LS7 based DOHC by Merc into my zr-1.


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[Mystic ZR-1]

Originally Posted by WARP TEN

Looks to me that the designers are shooting for the Mitsu Evo crowd....Bob

They ain't dieing off like our crowd...

[SAB]

Originally Posted by 1991KOTH

Its a travesty really. If its not DOHC its not an LT5. The LT5 was something really different and special. This is not that. Thats like bringing the L88 name back and putting it in a base model vette lol.


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That's typical GM. I do have to admit that I am surprised that they have not resurrected the L88 name.