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Old 02-23-2017   #11
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He said cavity

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Old 02-23-2017   #12
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Dave,

Just checked and the connector in my pic is
C239(white conn 10 way) and the light green wire w the arrow pointing to it
is in G cavity.
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Old 02-23-2017   #13
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Dave,

Just checked and the connector in my pic is
C239(white conn 10 way) and the light green wire w the arrow pointing to it
is in G cavity.
I can't make G & C239 work, I doubt a FSM error because looking back and forward a year I see the same reference. I don't know that if I had the balance of the wire colors and cavity ID's I could sort it closer or not. I'd be happy to try. I've run my FSMs all years through some theoretically better OCR software and the search seems to do pretty well.

I've run my micro-fiche SPO parts through a couple also and it's pretty good but certainly not ready for "prime time". The micro-fiche films just never did very well.

In the '92 FSM it's ID'd as D in C239 and F in C209, '91 and '93 seem to agree!

I'd actually be interested in the rest of the colors and cavities to check a few things.

Check J in C239 and see if you might have a LT BLU!!
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Old 02-23-2017   #14
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Dave,

The connector I am looking at has a light blue wire at cavity K. Not clear in this image. In my FSM, it does not show what cavities have which wires for C239. I am identifying it due to the fact that the connector is WHITE w 10 cavities. Looking under the IP, I don't see any other connector that matches that description.

Edit - 239 is a 10 cavity not 15.
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Old 02-23-2017   #15
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From reading my 92 FSM, I note that the reverse signal in C239 is cavity D
which is a BLUE 10 cavity connector.
In C209, the signal is in cavity F of a 15 cavity BLACK connector.

I'm looking at the 92 Electrical Supplement, 8A-202-14 and 15.

Diagram is 8A-112-0 in the supplement
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Old 02-24-2017   #16
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The connector in your snapshot is C238 (G-LT GRN is 2d fuel related, K- BLU is AC related, J-BRN/WHT CEL/SES related, F - should be brown). Turn that connector and A should be DK BLU/WHT & B should be DK GRN/WHT. I didn't go further. Confirm those colors as correct and move on to a different choice.

In your #14 snapshot ID the cavities and wire colors of the adjacent connector. In the wire bundle you've got wire colors that look to be appropriate.

C209 uses an 8 pin mating and a 7 pin mating connector, F is in the 8pin mating connector. Look at the link to locobob's install (black is the C209 and the clear is the 8 pin mating. If he were to turn that over there would be a 7 pin mating.

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Old 02-24-2017   #17
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The connector in your snapshot is C238 (G-LT GRN is 2d fuel related, K- BLU is AC related, J-BRN/WHT CEL/SES related, F - should be brown). Turn that connector and A should be DK BLU/WHT & B should be DK GRN/WHT. I didn't go further. Confirm those colors as correct and move on to a different choice.

In your #14 snapshot ID the cavities and wire colors of the adjacent connector. In the wire bundle you've got wire colors that look to be appropriate.
Dave,

I'll confirm but if u look closely at #14 and # 7, you can make out the Green/white stripe on the other side, and the Dark Blue/white stripe. Am I correct that C239 is a Blue connector?
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Old 02-24-2017   #18
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Dave,

I'll confirm but if u look closely at #14 and # 7, you can make out the Green/white stripe on the other side, and the Dark Blue/white stripe. Am I correct that C239 is a Blue connector?
I was actually editing my #16 post and making it easier to maybe use locobob's snapshots.

I gave you a way to "confirm" not just my WAG here in the hills of WV. I've never had C239 in my hand and the FSM is riddled with connector misinformation. An example is C239 - on 8A-202-14 C210/C239 is ID'd as same, 8A-202-15 as different. Delphi says that 8A-202-15 is correct and both connectors male/female should be BLUE.
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Old 02-24-2017   #19
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Ok Dave. Here's a couple of shots. I think they confirm your indication.
C238 is flipped over to show other side.
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Old 02-24-2017   #20
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Ok Dave. Here's a couple of shots. I think they confirm your indication.
C238 is flipped over to show other side.
Now you've got the connector you need to work with unless you also put your hands on the C209 and it was easier to manipulate.

Were it here I might choose the 8 pin mating for the C209 because it might be easier to unlatch, remove the wire, crimp a new terminal with a pigtail to use for the RVC. The terminals are an easy source for me.

The first image I posted way back isn't in the '92 and earlier FSM because the CDM is right there also and they couldn't image that area as easily under the dash. Get the CDM out of the way and it should be much easier and maybe resemble the later image I posted back there.
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