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Old 07-26-2016   #11
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Needless to say, it was Dempsey who came to rescue and rebuilt my LT5 after the failed first attempt due to crankshaft oil galley plug popping out. Great job!!!
Now you've got to help me keep my Merc running too.
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Old 07-27-2016   #12
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Dempsey, dog pic bro
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Old 07-29-2016   #13
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Needless to say, it was Dempsey who came to rescue and rebuilt my LT5 after the failed first attempt due to crankshaft oil galley plug popping out. Great job!!!
Now you've got to help me keep my Merc running too.
[emoji5] Thanks Yun. That was a fun build!....I look at that build alot..great car!!!!

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[/U][/COLOR][/I][/B][B][I][COLOR=red]1991 ZR1[/COLOR][COLOR=black] [U]#00517 ("Irene")[COLOR=red]WHITE[/COLOR]/[COLOR=red]RED-SOLD:cry:[/COLOR] [B][/B]
[/U][/COLOR][/I][/B][B][I][COLOR=red]1992 ZR1[/COLOR][COLOR=black] [U]#00445("The Revenant")[COLOR=red][COLOR="Black"]BLACK [/COLOR][/COLOR]/[COLOR=red]RED(2016 T.O.D!) [/COLOR] [/U][/COLOR][/I][/B]
[B][I][COLOR=red]2009 [COLOR=red]Z06!![COLOR=black]BLK/BLK rare Linen interior[/COLOR] 707HP!![/COLOR] [/COLOR][/I][/B]
[B][I][COLOR=red]2006[/COLOR] BLK/BLK Z51 (Just SICK FAST!)SOLD)[/I][/B]
[B][I]1996 BLK/BLK LT4 Grnsprt(sold...Twice!)[/I][/B]
[B][I]1991 RED/REDL98(Fell off the shipping truck:([/I][/B]
[B][I]1980 BLK/RED L82(Sold)[/I][/B]
[B][I][B][I]1990[/I][/B] RED/BLK(sold.....In Japan)[/I][/B]
[I][COLOR=black][B][I]2006[/I][/B][/COLOR][/I] [COLOR=red]Mustang GT[/COLOR] ([B][I]mach 1[/I][/B])[B](sold)[/B]
[COLOR=black][B][I]1969[/I][/B][/COLOR] [COLOR=red]Mach[/COLOR] [B][I]1(sold in Japan)[/I][/B]
[COLOR=black][B][I]1969[/I][/B][/COLOR] [COLOR=red]Mach[/COLOR] [B][I]1#2(sold)[/I][/B]

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Old 12-04-2016   #14
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Bad experiences with this shop on both occasions I've used this shop. So, I'll be posting full details in a new topic soon.

No customer should ever be taken advantage of, and or treated like this. The first time I had kept it to myself, this time I'll offer the facts of my story ...you decide if it's the kind of shop you could ever trust with your Corvette.

I know some of you have your car there or planning on bringing it soon. You are welcome to contact me offline or via private message.
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Old 12-04-2016   #15
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Bad experiences with this shop on both occasions I've used this shop. So, I'll be posting full details in a new topic soon.

No customer should ever be taken advantage of, and or treated like this. The first time I had kept it to myself, this time I'll offer the facts of my story ...you decide if it's the kind of shop you could ever trust with your Corvette.

I know some of you have your car there or planning on bringing it soon. You are welcome to contact me offline or via private message.


The only person that was attempted to be taken advantage of was this shop, and the bank you lied to and told them you weren't here. Every single person on this forum who knows me knows I care about their car and them as much as my own. I treated you and your car the same way and each time you had a non specific issue and even though some may have thought it was petty, BUT-- Your are a customer and I made it right. Simple truth is I went above and beyond with your car(as I do with every car) and you took advantage of the situation, shook my hand and drove off and then lied in order not to pay your debts. (As in: you pay with a credit card, first one declined, you called your bank, give us another card to try and it goes through. You say your happy, shake my hand then call the bank LATER and tell them you have NO idea who charged the amount in question and you WERE NOT AT Evolution[emoji33] )

Bottom line is the ONLY reason you are posting this is because I wouldn't tell an insurance company your car was totaled from the deer being hit, so you couldn't unload the car AND the bank denied your claim due to proof you were here.

I absolutely welcome the chance to have a conversation about how you feel you can take requested repairs and services, get free dyno runs, a discount, shake my hand at 12am and then call your bank and tell them you weren't here...



At the end of the day all you have is your honor and integrity.

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[/U][/COLOR][/I][/B][B][I][COLOR=red]1991 ZR1[/COLOR][COLOR=black] [U]#00517 ("Irene")[COLOR=red]WHITE[/COLOR]/[COLOR=red]RED-SOLD:cry:[/COLOR] [B][/B]
[/U][/COLOR][/I][/B][B][I][COLOR=red]1992 ZR1[/COLOR][COLOR=black] [U]#00445("The Revenant")[COLOR=red][COLOR="Black"]BLACK [/COLOR][/COLOR]/[COLOR=red]RED(2016 T.O.D!) [/COLOR] [/U][/COLOR][/I][/B]
[B][I][COLOR=red]2009 [COLOR=red]Z06!![COLOR=black]BLK/BLK rare Linen interior[/COLOR] 707HP!![/COLOR] [/COLOR][/I][/B]
[B][I][COLOR=red]2006[/COLOR] BLK/BLK Z51 (Just SICK FAST!)SOLD)[/I][/B]
[B][I]1996 BLK/BLK LT4 Grnsprt(sold...Twice!)[/I][/B]
[B][I]1991 RED/REDL98(Fell off the shipping truck:([/I][/B]
[B][I]1980 BLK/RED L82(Sold)[/I][/B]
[B][I][B][I]1990[/I][/B] RED/BLK(sold.....In Japan)[/I][/B]
[I][COLOR=black][B][I]2006[/I][/B][/COLOR][/I] [COLOR=red]Mustang GT[/COLOR] ([B][I]mach 1[/I][/B])[B](sold)[/B]
[COLOR=black][B][I]1969[/I][/B][/COLOR] [COLOR=red]Mach[/COLOR] [B][I]1(sold in Japan)[/I][/B]
[COLOR=black][B][I]1969[/I][/B][/COLOR] [COLOR=red]Mach[/COLOR] [B][I]1#2(sold)[/I][/B]

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Old 12-05-2016   #16
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I appreciate your response, and ask that you continue to take this journey with me as I will concisely and chronologically share my negative experiences at your shop. This will not be some knee-jerk reaction, as much realization has occured since the November 15th service date.

On June 14th service date, we had a stern conversation regarding transmission parts you scavenged from my car without my prior consent. I will inquirie about a 130 mile "test drive" you did not inform me about. All the while failing to discover critical parts that were disconnected and/or loose, which was the main reason for a return visit. My observations will be unbiased, factual, and ultimately demonstrate a pattern.

Can you confirm that I politely refused a joyride in another customer's car (Ruby red with 49st rockers), in favor of starting work of my car because I still had to drive to NY. Can you tell everyone that it's accepted practice for a customer to test drive a different customers car if he wants? (same car again)
Did anyone ever drive my car other than you?...just makes me wonder. Gross breach of trust there, but that's your business not mine.

In all my credit card carrying years, I have never had to dispute a transaction. My bank offered me two options. I chose the option that immediately locks the funds, as I live five states away. It's the "fraudulent terminology" that you choose to run wild with. That's fine, I guess this takes time to sort. I promise to give you MY money's worth here. A few ZR-1 owners are stunned you even charged me, or that I paid you any money ...after what I went through.

Yes...my ZR-1 hit a downed deer on the highway folks! ...at the posted speed limit. Car went fully airborne, we'll at least the suspension was fully relaxed....I sure wasn't. While the car is still very drivable, it sustained significant damage to the undercarriage...a 2nd reason for my visit was now to inspect any damage.
PLEASE PROVIDE any evidence you have of me, or the insurance company, requesting your cooperation with this accident.

You will have every opportunity to explain how a simple 2-3 hour service visit to re-torque C-beam plates & realign exhaust.... turned into 12 hours later and now we have to dyno my car.

The audacity, you text me that I am "clearly not within the standards of The ZR1 community"...who's standards...yours?
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Old 12-05-2016   #17
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It is your right as a customer to be unhappy with service. It is not your right to take service, shake my hand and then try to get out of paying for service.

Again, everyone who knows me or has been at my shop knows that none of this makes sense(joy riding cars is NOT something we do here. Ops checking is, however right now I have close to a million dollars in cars here and we Only drive them when we are ops checking them). Right now, everyone is saying "ok so he's unhappy with service for whatever his reason is....but!..why did he go back a 2nd time?????....and why does he think it's alright to skip out on his bill.? (After he left, and then not saying a word to me till I had to call him??)

As much as I want to go back and forth on this(and I am chompin' at the bit!) It cheapens me, my shop and this community. As I tell everyone that comes in, I stand by everything I do. If your unhappy, I will make it right. If it's on me I take the responsibility and make it good.....however I will not be taken from and I will not be discredited.

Good luck George,

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[/U][/COLOR][/I][/B][B][I][COLOR=red]1991 ZR1[/COLOR][COLOR=black] [U]#00517 ("Irene")[COLOR=red]WHITE[/COLOR]/[COLOR=red]RED-SOLD:cry:[/COLOR] [B][/B]
[/U][/COLOR][/I][/B][B][I][COLOR=red]1992 ZR1[/COLOR][COLOR=black] [U]#00445("The Revenant")[COLOR=red][COLOR="Black"]BLACK [/COLOR][/COLOR]/[COLOR=red]RED(2016 T.O.D!) [/COLOR] [/U][/COLOR][/I][/B]
[B][I][COLOR=red]2009 [COLOR=red]Z06!![COLOR=black]BLK/BLK rare Linen interior[/COLOR] 707HP!![/COLOR] [/COLOR][/I][/B]
[B][I][COLOR=red]2006[/COLOR] BLK/BLK Z51 (Just SICK FAST!)SOLD)[/I][/B]
[B][I]1996 BLK/BLK LT4 Grnsprt(sold...Twice!)[/I][/B]
[B][I]1991 RED/REDL98(Fell off the shipping truck:([/I][/B]
[B][I]1980 BLK/RED L82(Sold)[/I][/B]
[B][I][B][I]1990[/I][/B] RED/BLK(sold.....In Japan)[/I][/B]
[I][COLOR=black][B][I]2006[/I][/B][/COLOR][/I] [COLOR=red]Mustang GT[/COLOR] ([B][I]mach 1[/I][/B])[B](sold)[/B]
[COLOR=black][B][I]1969[/I][/B][/COLOR] [COLOR=red]Mach[/COLOR] [B][I]1(sold in Japan)[/I][/B]
[COLOR=black][B][I]1969[/I][/B][/COLOR] [COLOR=red]Mach[/COLOR] [B][I]1#2(sold)[/I][/B]

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Old 12-05-2016   #18
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I've always paid my bill, in full, on time, with a gratuity....and in cash if requested. I know I am an excellent customer with regard to payment.
You know this about me, so do others in ZR-1 community. We spend money on our corvettes because we want to, we just want our money's worth. I am not alone here.

I'm returning to you shop a 2nd time to retorque plates that quickly loosened after your transmission replacement...among other missed fixes.

Please don't assume to tell people how they should interpret these postings. Guy's are a very intelligent group here... I'm the foolish one that doesn't even know when someone's trying to steal my custom tune, have no idea if I've been fixed correctly, and have to rely on other owners to look out for me because I'm still green. Dumb enough to pay for a blasting with no Vaseline, and miles away before it's explained how I got taken advantage of a 2nd time.

The question most often asked is... What was his laptop doing connected to your computer if you were there for C-beam plates? Why did you let him?
Do you really expect me to sit by while you go on saying that "I asked you to fix a Haibeck tune"... and you expect others to believe you'd just wanted to read the chip? YOU'VE TAKEN ADVANTAGE, MESSED UP, "SOMEONE" BAILED YOU OUT ...YOU CHARGE ME FOR SERVICE & INCONVENIENCE WHILE EXPERIMENTING WITH MY CAR, AND DENY IT...

Buckle up, it's my turn to drive...and we're not stopping, not even if a moose gets in the way!
Your conduct cheapens yourself and the reputation of your business...which baffles me that you take such liberties. I will make my experience available to the next guy considering where to bring his corvette for honest, qualified, competent, service.

Please don't shy away now... you came back at me so strongly earlier, and really we've only scratched the surface.

"At the end of the day all you have is your honor, integrity, some guy's $350, his custom tune, his tailstock, his VSS, his blue prom cover, etc."...putting words to the test.
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Old 12-05-2016   #19
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I'm going to warn everyone to stay on topic and only post relevant facts as they relate to the transactions that took place. If this takes even one step toward personal attacks I will not hesitate to send that party on a long vacation. Member or not, friend or not, vendor or not. I simply don't care, violate the rules and pay the price.

Clearly we have an issue here that needs addressed. Not sure if public is the right place for this or not, but that's my personal opinion and not one of the mods or the admins in general. If this would be better served in private do so, if an impartial third party is needed pm me.
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Old 12-05-2016   #20
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Respectfully accepted.

I will resume my story in a new thread later this week. I had indicated this intention earlier. Primarily, to make sure it would be allowed by forum rules....this one's been brewing for sometime now.
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