Advice on couple of Z issues.... - Page 2 - ZR-1 Net Registry Forums

George Maz · 02-18-2016

Optima battery sucks...that's why Sears dumped the entire line in favor of rebadged Odyssey AGM battery, which has been the Platinum DieHard AGM for some years now.
It's the best choice, for stored cars, cold starts, everything. Sure it costs more, but you get a battery that lasts...and never disappoints.

RICHARD TILL · 02-18-2016

I`ve actually had good luck with red top optima batteries. Got one on a drag boat with 13:1 compression, 08 GMC Sierra and the ZR-1. Battery on the GMC is 11 years old. The red top on the ZR-1 will not start the car if it`s been sitting for a period of 5-6 weeks. Parasitic drain i guess. If it`s been sitting a month or so, i`ll take the trickle charger off the bike and can leave it on there until whenever. Check your battery voltage with key off and then while cranking but not started. It`s the best and cheapest load test that exists. Fully charged ought to be 12.4-5 range and not sure about the cranking voltage but certainly not drop out the bottom. When it`s started, check the charging rate. Post the results. You`re going to have to expose the back of that seat. A 1991 service manual says that it`s cable operated. It`s called a seatback leaver release cable assembly. Put a service manual on that "to buy" list with the volt meter. It`ll pay for itself in one instance and always have a decent resale value.

GOLDCYLON · 02-18-2016

I too have had nothing but good luck with Optima I have been running one in My DD for 5 years now. However you may have an internal short due to a bad cell.

rush91 · 02-18-2016

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Originally Posted by GOLDCYLON

I too have had nothing but good luck with Optima I have been running one in My DD for 5 years now. However you may have an internal short due to a bad cell.

The dealership said they would replace the battery, they put a new one in when I bought it. So if it continues, new battery on the way. But I haven't had any electrical issues, the flashing of the climate controls was just a weird occurance. Will see Saturday if it does this again when I warm up the Z.....

secondchance · 02-18-2016

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Originally Posted by rush91

Yes, its the recline. After I push the little switch / lever on the back of the seat, the seat won't recline. I'm holding the lever and pushing easy, won't budge. I try to put some muscle behind it and still nothing. The seat works fine by all the motorized functions. Tilt, forward, backwards......Just the seatback won't recline up.

Below is the mechanism that allows lock/release for the reclining function.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1985-1993-Co...ZWU3Wt&vxp=mtr

Excessive cold temp may have temporarily locked it. Also, cable may have stretched. I believe you can remove the seat cushion and check for proper function. To remove seat cushion, reach under the front of seat, grab steel wire clip and flip it towards the back - pull down and back. Once up clipped, seat lifts up exposing internal mechanisms.

Z51JEFF · 02-19-2016

I've seen these seat reclining mechanisms rusted and siezed. If you've never had the bottom seat cushion out it's fairly easy. There's a clip at the very bottom edge seat edge. Push the clip off and the cushion comes out,once out you will see the mechanism for the recline. Putting the clip back on can be a bit tricky. You need to have the cushion down into the seat she'll as far as it will go,make sure to clip is in position and push down on the front of the cushion at the same time pulling the clip over the 2 retainer nubs.

rush91 · 02-19-2016

Quote:

Originally Posted by secondchance

Below is the mechanism that allows lock/release for the reclining function.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1985-1993-Co...ZWU3Wt&vxp=mtr

Excessive cold temp may have temporarily locked it. Also, cable may have stretched. I believe you can remove the seat cushion and check for proper function. To remove seat cushion, reach under the front of seat, grab steel wire clip and flip it towards the back - pull down and back. Once up clipped, seat lifts up exposing internal mechanisms.

The weather is supposed too be 70 degrees here Saturday, which is mind boggling for February here. But this is the first thing on my list Saturday, I haven't had the seat cushions off yet on either seat. Sounds like a good learning project. I think it maybe seized, rusted, because I can't get the seatback to move at all. Thanks for the link!!

02-18-2016	#11
George Maz Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: Long Island, NY Posts: 295	Re: Advice on couple of Z issues.... Optima battery sucks...that's why Sears dumped the entire line in favor of rebadged Odyssey AGM battery, which has been the Platinum DieHard AGM for some years now. It's the best choice, for stored cars, cold starts, everything. Sure it costs more, but you get a battery that lasts...and never disappoints. __________________ 1990 ZR-1 #1587 1990 ZR-1 #1727

02-18-2016	#12
RICHARD TILL Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Iuka, Mississippi 38852 Posts: 756	Re: Advice on couple of Z issues.... I`ve actually had good luck with red top optima batteries. Got one on a drag boat with 13:1 compression, 08 GMC Sierra and the ZR-1. Battery on the GMC is 11 years old. The red top on the ZR-1 will not start the car if it`s been sitting for a period of 5-6 weeks. Parasitic drain i guess. If it`s been sitting a month or so, i`ll take the trickle charger off the bike and can leave it on there until whenever. Check your battery voltage with key off and then while cranking but not started. It`s the best and cheapest load test that exists. Fully charged ought to be 12.4-5 range and not sure about the cranking voltage but certainly not drop out the bottom. When it`s started, check the charging rate. Post the results. You`re going to have to expose the back of that seat. A 1991 service manual says that it`s cable operated. It`s called a seatback leaver release cable assembly. Put a service manual on that "to buy" list with the volt meter. It`ll pay for itself in one instance and always have a decent resale value.

02-18-2016	#13
GOLDCYLON Join Date: May 2007 Location: Peoria, AZ Posts: 9,155	Re: Advice on couple of Z issues.... I too have had nothing but good luck with Optima I have been running one in My DD for 5 years now. However you may have an internal short due to a bad cell. __________________ GOLDCYLON - 91 ZR-1 #2014 GOLDCYLON - 90 ZR-1 #2794, 4L60e (Formerly Schrade's) GOLDCYLON - 11 CTS-V Arizona State Director 91 WHITE/BLACK #2014. 380 P&P&PCed,Ported Heads, Jeal Long tubes, Corsa Exhaust/FIKSE FM-5s /LED TLs, LED Headlights, Front Wilwood 6 piston narrowlite calipers and rear Wilwood caliper street shop mod,CNCed Coolant Pipes,TPI Cvr,Filter cover,Stainless Bolts, DRM/DOM PROM /ZFDOC mod build #102,DRLs,BMAD with stainless Debris Screen,Coplan Air Blaster, Pioneer APP Radio 4,Brey-Krause HB,Sub Bar,Fire extinguisher seat mount,DRM Coilovers,LEDs everywhere,Compass mirror (orange),V1 DIC hidden display, Homelink sun visor, Carbon Fiber top x3 and APSIS Carbon Fiber interior, APSIS CF Steering Wheel/NAPA Leather, Banski trailing arms, Guldstrand front suspension,urethane bushings from Prothane (total suspension) ZFDoc drive shaft safety loop, raptor shift light (orange),AO engineering louver front plate, Console seat cushion, 96CE seats with black custom Sheepskins, ss billet catch can,Viper remote entry/alarm,Cragar Rear Louvers,LED side louver lights, Dewitts Radiator with SPAL fans and a Woods 160 T-Stat 90 RED/BLACK #2794. 4L60e Automatic Stage V by RPM Transmission, TCI Dedicated TCM, OBX Stainless Headers, Corsa Exhaust, SAN Secondaries and Haibeck PROM, Exotic Muscle Coil overs, LED Interior Lights, LED Tail Lights, LED Headlights, 94 Sport seats with black custom Sheepskins , Cragar rear louvers, GS Front calipers, Banski Trailing arms, APSIS Carbon Fiber steering wheel, Front and Rear Baer Eradispeeds, DRLs, Guldstrand front suspension,urethane bushings from Prothane (total suspension), Dewitt's Raditor with Dual SPAL fans and a Haibeck 170 T-Stat 11 RED/GREY CTS-V

02-19-2016	#16
Z51JEFF Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Fremont,Ca Posts: 3,079	Re: Advice on couple of Z issues.... I've seen these seat reclining mechanisms rusted and siezed. If you've never had the bottom seat cushion out it's fairly easy. There's a clip at the very bottom edge seat edge. Push the clip off and the cushion comes out,once out you will see the mechanism for the recline. Putting the clip back on can be a bit tricky. You need to have the cushion down into the seat she'll as far as it will go,make sure to clip is in position and push down on the front of the cushion at the same time pulling the clip over the 2 retainer nubs.