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WVZR-1 · 07-24-2015

I've never needed to do a "parasitic draw" test on a '91 but I believe if I had a parasitic draw on a '91 I'd start with doing a complete test of the DAB (Delayed Accessory Bus) first likely. A first year feature?

Determine how you want to do the parasitic draw test and be very systematic with your procedure. I've always used the - post and cable BUT ...

I've a friend who whenever doing a parasitic draw test didn't go to the fuse box but to the fusible links first. On a '91 aside from the ECM FL and the AC BCM FL all fusible links are at the junction block behind the battery. I might remove the fender panel and do it from there in an attempt to isolate the circuit.

I believe it would eliminate the need to remove the right side knee bolster to check the AUX BOXES where there's a pair of fuses for the convenience lighting and also the accessory leads in the console (another first year feature).

**** You do need to do a "load test" on the battery and confirm the condition FIRST!

Jim Nolan · 07-24-2015

I had something close to that in my '87. It drove me crazy for the longest time. Only by accident I found that it was the up position on the passenger power window switch. When I replaced both switches (passenger and driver) I found out why. What piece of junk.

Jim

Bob Eyres · 08-18-2015

Bump

GOLDCYLON · 08-18-2015

Aftermarket Radio? Burgular alarm ?

-=Jeff=- · 08-18-2015

Maybe the Door/Key/headlight chime? I heard that could be an issue too

WVZR-1 · 08-18-2015

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bob Eyres

Bump

I don't quite understand the "bump". What have you done for a start?

Bob Eyres · 08-30-2015

Sorry guys, I got distracted by some higher priority stuff.
But we narrowed it down to a short in the the seat controls on the console before I had to stash the car in a safe spot for this (non)Hurricane that was coming. So I'll let you know how it shakes out his week.

Thanks for all the feedback

Locobob · 09-03-2015

I noticed my battery getting drained when sitting for a few days, just discovered my passenger side visor mirror light was on... DOH!

Bob Eyres · 09-11-2015

A little update here. I'm away from the car and just had a phone conversation with the guys that are working on it.
Last week they told me that they'd found a shorted out driver's side seat switch at the back of the console, (I never knew the seat motor didn't work because I never really move it.). We ordered a switch from a salvaged C4 and installed it along with the harness and plug it came with. Now the seat works, but it kept blowing fuses.
Today they tell me that in the power supply harness to the seats, after they unwrapped the tape on it they spotted a fried 3amp diode on the back of the incoming power wire in the harness, they separated the leads, but have not replaced the diode yet. The seat now works, but we're wondering wether to replace that diode, or what to do next.

Just a reminder. This is a relatively unmolested ZR-1 that I've had for over twenty years with no real electrical problems or modifications to the electrics.

I'm totally clueless as to electrical aspects of the car, so on Monday, Dick, the mechanic that's working on it is going to sign up to this forum to talk direct to anyone that might steer him in the right direction.

BTW, could my car have caught the dreaded British electrical disease from some of it's Lotus designed components?

Marc Haibeck · 09-12-2015

Hi Bob,

The diode is there to attenuate voltage spikes that the motor sends out when it is turned off. The voltage spikes can cause erroneous operation of electronics in the car. The diode should be replaced. It's a common 1N4002 diode. It needs to be installed with the correct polarity. The diode should be available from a computer or appliance repair parts store.

07-24-2015	#11
WVZR-1 Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 1,890	Re: Mystery Voltage Draw I've never needed to do a "parasitic draw" test on a '91 but I believe if I had a parasitic draw on a '91 I'd start with doing a complete test of the DAB (Delayed Accessory Bus) first likely. A first year feature? Determine how you want to do the parasitic draw test and be very systematic with your procedure. I've always used the - post and cable BUT ... I've a friend who whenever doing a parasitic draw test didn't go to the fuse box but to the fusible links first. On a '91 aside from the ECM FL and the AC BCM FL all fusible links are at the junction block behind the battery. I might remove the fender panel and do it from there in an attempt to isolate the circuit. I believe it would eliminate the need to remove the right side knee bolster to check the AUX BOXES where there's a pair of fuses for the convenience lighting and also the accessory leads in the console (another first year feature). **** You do need to do a "load test" on the battery and confirm the condition FIRST!

07-24-2015	#12
Jim Nolan Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Florida Posts: 241	Re: Mystery Voltage Draw I had something close to that in my '87. It drove me crazy for the longest time. Only by accident I found that it was the up position on the passenger power window switch. When I replaced both switches (passenger and driver) I found out why. What piece of junk. Jim

08-18-2015	#13
Bob Eyres Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Jupiter, Fl. Posts: 815	Re: Mystery Voltage Draw Bump

08-18-2015	#14
GOLDCYLON Join Date: May 2007 Location: Peoria, AZ Posts: 9,155	Re: Mystery Voltage Draw Aftermarket Radio? Burgular alarm ? __________________ GOLDCYLON - 91 ZR-1 #2014 GOLDCYLON - 90 ZR-1 #2794, 4L60e (Formerly Schrade's) GOLDCYLON - 11 CTS-V Arizona State Director 91 WHITE/BLACK #2014. 380 P&P&PCed,Ported Heads, Jeal Long tubes, Corsa Exhaust/FIKSE FM-5s /LED TLs, LED Headlights, Front Wilwood 6 piston narrowlite calipers and rear Wilwood caliper street shop mod,CNCed Coolant Pipes,TPI Cvr,Filter cover,Stainless Bolts, DRM/DOM PROM /ZFDOC mod build #102,DRLs,BMAD with stainless Debris Screen,Coplan Air Blaster, Pioneer APP Radio 4,Brey-Krause HB,Sub Bar,Fire extinguisher seat mount,DRM Coilovers,LEDs everywhere,Compass mirror (orange),V1 DIC hidden display, Homelink sun visor, Carbon Fiber top x3 and APSIS Carbon Fiber interior, APSIS CF Steering Wheel/NAPA Leather, Banski trailing arms, Guldstrand front suspension,urethane bushings from Prothane (total suspension) ZFDoc drive shaft safety loop, raptor shift light (orange),AO engineering louver front plate, Console seat cushion, 96CE seats with black custom Sheepskins, ss billet catch can,Viper remote entry/alarm,Cragar Rear Louvers,LED side louver lights, Dewitts Radiator with SPAL fans and a Woods 160 T-Stat 90 RED/BLACK #2794. 4L60e Automatic Stage V by RPM Transmission, TCI Dedicated TCM, OBX Stainless Headers, Corsa Exhaust, SAN Secondaries and Haibeck PROM, Exotic Muscle Coil overs, LED Interior Lights, LED Tail Lights, LED Headlights, 94 Sport seats with black custom Sheepskins , Cragar rear louvers, GS Front calipers, Banski Trailing arms, APSIS Carbon Fiber steering wheel, Front and Rear Baer Eradispeeds, DRLs, Guldstrand front suspension,urethane bushings from Prothane (total suspension), Dewitt's Raditor with Dual SPAL fans and a Haibeck 170 T-Stat 11 RED/GREY CTS-V

08-18-2015	#15
-=Jeff=- Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Bartlett, IL Posts: 7,169	Re: Mystery Voltage Draw Maybe the Door/Key/headlight chime? I heard that could be an issue too __________________ 1990 Corvette ZR-1 #1051 Watson Headers (2" Primary) - Flowmaster Cats - Borla Catback Late Model IH - Plenum Coilovers - 4.10s Custom Interior NCM Lifetime Member #978

08-30-2015	#17
Bob Eyres Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Jupiter, Fl. Posts: 815	Re: Mystery Voltage Draw Sorry guys, I got distracted by some higher priority stuff. But we narrowed it down to a short in the the seat controls on the console before I had to stash the car in a safe spot for this (non)Hurricane that was coming. So I'll let you know how it shakes out his week. Thanks for all the feedback

09-03-2015	#18
Locobob Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Portland, OR Posts: 1,057	Re: Mystery Voltage Draw I noticed my battery getting drained when sitting for a few days, just discovered my passenger side visor mirror light was on... DOH! __________________ Robert ZR-1 Net Registry Oregon State Director 91 ZR-1 #431 Black/Black LPE 368

09-11-2015	#19
Bob Eyres Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Jupiter, Fl. Posts: 815	Re: Mystery Voltage Draw A little update here. I'm away from the car and just had a phone conversation with the guys that are working on it. Last week they told me that they'd found a shorted out driver's side seat switch at the back of the console, (I never knew the seat motor didn't work because I never really move it.). We ordered a switch from a salvaged C4 and installed it along with the harness and plug it came with. Now the seat works, but it kept blowing fuses. Today they tell me that in the power supply harness to the seats, after they unwrapped the tape on it they spotted a fried 3amp diode on the back of the incoming power wire in the harness, they separated the leads, but have not replaced the diode yet. The seat now works, but we're wondering wether to replace that diode, or what to do next. Just a reminder. This is a relatively unmolested ZR-1 that I've had for over twenty years with no real electrical problems or modifications to the electrics. I'm totally clueless as to electrical aspects of the car, so on Monday, Dick, the mechanic that's working on it is going to sign up to this forum to talk direct to anyone that might steer him in the right direction. BTW, could my car have caught the dreaded British electrical disease from some of it's Lotus designed components?

09-12-2015	#20
Marc Haibeck Join Date: May 2007 Location: Addison IL Posts: 250	Re: Mystery Voltage Draw Hi Bob, The diode is there to attenuate voltage spikes that the motor sends out when it is turned off. The voltage spikes can cause erroneous operation of electronics in the car. The diode should be replaced. It's a common 1N4002 diode. It needs to be installed with the correct polarity. The diode should be available from a computer or appliance repair parts store.