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[5ABI VT]

I just did a full stage 2 rebuild of the T56 in my 04 ctsv. It still shifts like junk compared to my ZFs. After so many years Ive come to the conclusion that the ZF is not only good.. its super awesome.

I had the B&M and its not bad. To me it was too notchy. the shift effort went up a lot and it was short. I liked it back when I was 20 yrs old. But the darn thing rattled like crazy. there was no isolation in its linkage etc. I got a Hurst for my friends car 8 years ago and drove it several times (96 lt4) and really felt it was a no brainer that it was the way to go. It wasn't too much shorter than stock, but has shorter throws, adds a bit of effort which I liked. WHen I got my Z I had a Hurst ordered while I was driving home from looking at the car

I also have a ZFdoc short shift on my brand new blue tag I had him modify to handle the 8k rpm solid roller I built in my 93 and I love that shifter too. I cant really compare since Ive only had Bills on a 0 mile and modified zf (when gm dumped stock I bought one) vs a 65k mile trans but they are relatively similar. I haven't driven the 93 in 8 year so I cant really try and do a detailed comparison.

[-=Jeff=-]

do you still have the 93?

[5ABI VT]

Originally Posted by -=Jeff=-

do you still have the 93?

Yessir !! I have considered parting it out and the motor and building the LT5 or doing the callaway aero body and painting the car silver and rebuilding the wheels to 20s with a nice brushed step lip.. Oh the ideas More than likely since the car is already built up I'll be dropping the motor in this fall or early next year.

[HAWAIIZR-1]

Amazing how we all have different experiences and liking to products. I had my Hurst all these years in my 90 (over 12 years) and love it, but I bought this 95 that came with a B&M and much better for me. I like how easy it is to get into each gear, including reverse and how much more confidence with power shifting. No rattles or noise, just a louder click into in gear.

[Karl]

The B&M unit:


The zf doc unit is much smoother imo and the main reason I switched shifters.

[5ABI VT]

Great photo Ill throw a compare shot together in a min.

[HAWAIIZR-1]

Originally Posted by Karl

The B&M unit:


The zf doc unit is much smoother imo and the main reason I switched shifters.

Thanks for sharing. If I start to have problems with mine, I'll ship the stock one in the box to the ZF Doc. Bill B is awesome to work with and knows his stuff.

[5ABI VT]

As I suspected and fairly obvious when you look at short shifter mechanics.. you can see the length difference between the B&M vs hurst and oem from the pivot point to the linkage piece that goes into the ZF. I don't know all the technical terms but as you can see.. this would raise the shift effort and make the shift throws shortest (also changes/increases the angle of the link piece that goes into the zf. The Hurst length is an in between oem and B&M. I tried to size the pics as close as I could on my phone

[Karl]

Can you include the picture of the ZFdoc shifter from my first post in your side by side comparison?

Thanks!

[5ABI VT]

Originally Posted by Karl

Can you include the picture of the ZFdoc shifter from my first post in your side by side comparison?

Thanks!

Oh absolutely ! I forgot there was one ! im on my phone I can do a more accurate one when im not at work but gimme a few mins