C8 mid-engine Zora ZR1 (no hyphen) for 2017

[Hog]

GT40 here


Both the Ford GT and the GT-40 are both sinfully Ford.
I'd rather have a C6 ZR1 that a Ford GT. I'm sure one of the 107 actual 2000lb GT-40 race cars would be worth some coin.

Snubbing the ZR1 rpo for the C7 would certainly make a good lead up for a C8 ZR1. I dont see it happening. There will be some cool technology in the GEN 6 SBC's though.

[Kevin]

the gt40 is actually a british car

[Hog]

Originally Posted by Kevin

the gt40 is actually a british car

They were still built by Ford in both England and USA(depending on which Mark of GT-40 we are talking about), using American engines, built by Ford under Ford Advanced Vehicles Ltd in Slough England. The Mark 4 builds took place at Wixom USA. Their was almost Lotus involvement, until Lotus wanted the car named a Lotus-Ford.

[LGAFF]

Is this going to be a limited production car? If not, the problem is utility.....25-40K people per year are not buying a corvette that you can't put groceries, luggage, or golf clubs in.........rear engine allows you to reduce the frontal area...so not much room for luggage or taking anything with you....

[Paul Workman]

[QUOTE=XfireZ51;21180gt40 Would give up the ZR for a GT-40. You can tell this isn't the mid-engine Vette.
It has ROUND TAILLIGHTS. Not happening.[/QUOTE]

Hmmmmm... How about a GT -40 with an LT5 in it?

[Fully Vetted]

Originally Posted by Hog

... I'd rather have a C6 ZR1 that a Ford GT...

Oooh...not me. Not in a million years. Just based on styling alone I wouldn't do that deal. I'd take a GT with a blown motor over a run of the mill C6 ZR1. You're also talking about a car that is now 10 years old.

[Hog]

Originally Posted by Fully Vetted

Oooh...not me. Not in a million years. Just based on styling alone I wouldn't do that deal. I'd take a GT with a blown motor over a run of the mill C6 ZR1. You're also talking about a car that is now 10 years old.

For a driving car, ZR1 in a heartbeat. Heartbeat of America! The GT is a little twitchy when having fun, but thats mostly the engine/drive config.

I do understand from a collector perspective, just not my deal. Parts for a C6 can be had at any GM parts counter.

I will admit that I have never hung a C6 ZR1 around a corner, but its gotta be better than the GT.
The GT is a nice car for a Ford.

[Fully Vetted]

Originally Posted by Hog

For a driving car, ZR1 in a heartbeat.

Sure, if you're planning on putting 100,000 miles on it or a 2 week road trip, yeah, I get that. I'm pretty sure the GT wasn't designed for that. A C6 ZR1 could be a daily driver if you wanted it to be. It wasn't designed for any single purpose like the GT. It is full of compromises in order for it be more versatile. It doesn't do anything great but it does a lot of things really good. And in 3 years it will be worth a little over half what you paid for it.

Originally Posted by Hog

I will admit that I have never hung a C6 ZR1 around a corner, but its gotta be better than the GT.

Why?

[Hog]

Originally Posted by Fully Vetted

Sure, if you're planning on putting 100,000 miles on it or a 2 week road trip, yeah, I get that. I'm pretty sure the GT wasn't designed for that. A C6 ZR1 could be a daily driver if you wanted it to be. It wasn't designed for any single purpose like the GT. It is full of compromises in order for it be more versatile. It doesn't do anything great but it does a lot of things really good. And in 3 years it will be worth a little over half what you paid for it.

I agree, no the GT probably wasnt designed with a 2 week road trip in mind, it could be argued that the ZR1 wasnt either. But yes, for sure the ZR1 was designed to be more versatile.
The ZR1 does compromise more than the GT. The GT was marketed off of the lore of the old GT-40 race cars, but to be driven on the street. That coupled with killer performance.

I do beg to differ that the ZR-1 does do quite a few things, great IMO. The C6 ZR1 bested the GT on the 'Ring by 2.5 seconds on the runflats in 1 run, and 15 seconds again with runflats up to over 20 seconds. with the optional sticky's. (Iwas really surprised to see the 2014 Z./ Camaro bested the Ford GT AND the ZR1).

I was thinking more of a scenario, ZR1 and GT in front of you, pick which keys you want.

You know what, I JUST looked up the prices of some of these beasts. And I change my answer. $250,000-$400,000+ for a Ford GT? I WILL take the Ford GT, be stupid not to. Could buy 4 new ZR1's. Wow, just WOW!(I will leave up all my comments derived before I realized the exorbitant amounts of coin these things pull.

Originally Posted by Fully Vetted

Why?

Better was the wrong word. While admitting to not having the opportunity
to hang a ZR1 out sideways. I was try to convey that doing so in a Ford GT was surprisingly different I assume to its mid-engine, rear drive configuration. The feeling was that I felt that either you get right into the power to drift, or back right off and take a corner without and steering using the throttle. The GT hooked well when it hooked, I felt like I could get nto a lot of trouble very quickly. Not for the "timid" driver. I'm not trying to portray that I had near enough seat time to even approach anything resembling the limits of the car. Just a 1/2 an hour screwing around with the owner in the passenger seat egging me on to "Give 'er", which was annoying. The last thing I wanted to do was twist his GT at ALL. I drive my OWN vehicles hard, because they are MINE, and Iknow how they react. It had a smaller blower pulley and ECM recalibration.

I was thinking that the ZR1 would be easier to "have fun with" than the GT in regards to laying a patch or similar slow speed "street" fun stuff simply because of the front engine/rear drive I am more used to.

The GT had a feeling sort of like a Testarossa, but it took way more work in the Ferrari simply because the the lack of power compared to the GT.

[XfireZ51]

I attended Fords at Carlisle a year ago and had the opportunity to speak w a Ford GT owner who had written a book on the GT. He was also doing a presentation on the GT. He commented that 3000 GTs were built but that over 1000 have been totaled. One reason why the price is escalating. It does not have the nanny electronics to save the unknowing from losing it. For those that don't know, it was Saleen that actually developed, engineered and built the Ford GT. He had a small factory in Detroit where these were built, then sent over to Ford for affixing the Blue Oval and Monroney stickers. Later on, Saleen also built a limited number of Vipers for Chrysler.