09-04-2013 | #11 |
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Re: ZR1Net: parts development program
great idea, hard to execute under current directlion of the club.
R&D is big money, and the returns are tough to gain. but as a non-profit corp, as long as it can be "fully costed out" and priced to break even, it sure could work and it's a fantastic idea. I think another approach is to stimulate vendors through free advertising on the site and newsletter and ramping up the "group buys" if a vendor knows he can at least break even through a group buy, the incentive to develop a product is out there. as long as there is demand, and a market, there will be a supplier. problem is, organizing a demand enough to encourage the supplier as for me, I'm saving up for that 3D metal printer!! look at "stupid" parts like the thermostat housing bringing 400+ sheesh, give me some sheet alum and a tig, and call it a day. or better still have carter whittle it from billet. thanks for suggesting this! it's a great topic, now see what response you get
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Re: ZR1Net: parts development program
Could this stuff be available in the store. Then the forum could buy some and make it worth the manufacturers while by buying more than 1 at a time.
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09-04-2013 | #13 |
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Re: ZR1Net: parts development program
Interesting idea. Can't imagine how it would work ($$$), but worth exploring.
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Re: ZR1Net: parts development program
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It wouldn't always work perfect, ie. leftovers, but with common sense it would work well.
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09-04-2013 | #15 |
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Re: ZR1Net: parts development program
How about a poll to determine how many DIS modules/ECMS actually completely failed. Include the following history of purchases in the Poll:
Chain tensioners Piston Rings Chain tensioner covers I am not sure what this is...the outer cylinder of the chain tensioners are steel and I have never heard of one needing replacement Cams Valves Valve Springs ECMS or other electronics Jerry and Limey are already selling valves, valve springs, and chain tensioners. Pete is already grinding Cams. Carter I am sure can make all sorts of Covers out of Billet Aluminum. And I have found very nice Billet Aluminum Oil Fill Caps and Belt Tensioner Pulleys already on Ebay and build the Tow Bar Adapters myself. Craig has proposed a group buy on Billet Aluminum Alternator Housings. Z51JEFF is in the process of building Door Sill Protectors. Marc is making all sorts of Misc items. ZFdoc is making the C4 Beam Plates. And you have made yourself the MAP Covers. Along these lines.....maybe a list of who is doing what now would be helpfull. I doubt anyone will start making FX3 Actuators, Vacuum Canisters, Vacuum pumps for examples. Jerry is Making all sorts of gaskets, and even has available the NEW Secondary Linkages. Polo-1 (Kevin) and Corvettenutz (Ted) for Example are providing all sorts of parts including DIS and ECMs and all sorts of engine parts including complete Heads, and Suspension Parts including the the Bilstein Shocks and FX3 Actuators from Salvaged Parts ZR-1s about as fast as the existing failures of those parts. 91zrocket and others have provided complete ZR-1s and complete LT5s for Part Out recently. This discussion so far does not account for the Parts Hoarders like myself who have on the Parts Shelves Spares for Everything Post 44 - Parts It is hard to imagine the development/manufacturing costs of an ECM or DIS would be less than the current Salvage costs. It appears the Salvage ZR-1s and Salvage LT5s are coming up about as fast as these parts fail which failures are rare. Just a little perspective on a great idea Some more Information for ya: SUMMARY Ebay Searches Ebay Aluminum billet oil cap (fits 90' & 91' LT5 & L98) Ebay Corvette Electrical Section 8A Ebay Corvette Ignition Key Ebay radiator Comb Ebay LT5 2902 engine mounts Ebay LT5 2713 engine mounts Ebay LT5 PVC CV913C Ebay LT5 PVC CV769C Ebay LT5 Plug wires Ebay LT5 Service Manual Ebay LT5 Thermostat Ebay LT5 Water pump Ebay Power Antenna Mast Ebay ZR1 Bosch 69225 Fuel Pumps Ebay ZR1 LT5 Ebay ZR1 LT5 Chain Ebay ZR1 LT5 Belt Ebay ZR1 LT5 Bolts Ebay ZR1 LT5 Engine Ebay ZR1 LT5 Gaskets Ebay ZR1 LT5 Plenum Ebay ZR1 LT5 Secondary Ebay ZR1 LT5 Throttle Body Ebay ZR1 Alternator Ebay ZR1 Bose Ebay ZR1 Brake Pads Ebay ZR1 Cat Back Exhaust Ebay ZR1 Clutch Cylinder Ebay ZR1 Coolant Ebay ZR1 Corvette Clutch Ebay ZR1 Radiator Ebay ZR1 Spark Plugs Ebay ZR1 Starter Ebay Autometer 2343 NEW PARTS & SUPPLIES (BY MEMBERS) New Items Designed and Fabricated TIPS Pete's ZR-1 Garage Adams Premium Car Care Haibeck Automotive Technology Jerry's Gaskets White Racing Products Jerry's PCV Connector Carter Bling Copland SS Air Box cvette98pacecar Suede Headliners LGAFF MAP Sensor Cover LGAFF 90-95 emblems LGAFF Tech Guides Pete's Custom Racing Parts Pete's Rebuilt Clutch Pressure Plates rhipsher Reverse Lockout VetteMed Valentine 1 Radar concealed VetteMed Review Mirror with Compass USED PARTS Use of Facebook to find parts Facebook buy, sell, trade parts Buying, selling, trading ZR-1 (LT-5) parts Crags list Corvettenutz Vette2Vette ebay Justcorvette Justcorvettes USED EBAY STORE PARTS eBay store: Corvette Salvage ebay store: Dennys Corvettes eBay store: Nook and Tranny LLC eBay store: Redneck43 Corvette's Store ebay store: slick300zx eBay store: vettepros.usa NEW PARTS Antenna Parts ARP Auto Parts Warehouse DeWitts Radiators DeWitts Home Ecklers Corvette Parts Carolina Clutch Clarks Discount Corvette Central Corvette HID Doug Ripple Motor Sports Guldstrand Racing Mid America Power Torque Systems Randy Woods RC Injectors Ron Davis Radiators SAMCO hoses Stainless Works Ebay ZR1 SKF BR930024 Rear Wheel Hub & Bearing REPAIRS Marc Haibeck (Performance) Pete's ZR-1 Garage Doc Don's (Radio) ZF Doc (Transmission) Gordon Killebrew C4 trouble shooting Rebuilt water pump TurnOne (Power Steering)
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09-04-2013 | #16 |
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Re: ZR1Net: parts development program
No doubt about it Lee, good idea..
There's a lot of talk we could have now about which nut and which bolt needs to be fabricated (details) but it might be a good idea to develop a business plan for the idea. Seems we have at least one in the group with business plan development experience. The sequence of what happens in what order and when/if/how folks are re-numerated for their efforts etc. For instance let's say I come up with a DIS equivalent. Maybe I get "in store credit" of such and such an amount I could use toward buying an improved glass top that Don came up with and leave the rest of the balance in an "account" of sorts. Once these understandings are in place there might be many who would step up. Maybe we could self organize into teams.
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Re: ZR1Net: parts development program
Lee, this thread can be converted into a Poll.
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Re: ZR1Net: parts development program
Not my website.....so I will let the powers that be think that one over.
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Re: ZR1Net: parts development program
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Simply go to your original post and click "Thread Tools" then look for the "Add Poll" then enter in a list of possible selections that you can think of. Or I suppose you could wait for someone else to start a new thread with the poll.
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09-05-2013 | #20 |
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Re: ZR1Net: parts development program
Well????
I do know that the development process is expensive and will take many iterations to develop an item that at most has very limited sales potential.....and that applies to ALL and ANY LT5 or ZR-1 part. After you have an item developed (assuming you have permission from original developers) you face very stiff competition from those involved in Salvage of ZR-1s. Just Saying I think ANYONE can create a Poll.
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