05-19-2018 | #11 |
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Re: I saw a 86 Narrowbody prototype for sale
I would ask to not be too hard on Keith. He's proud of the work he did on the car and sad about the work he needs to do again. It's a ton of work to bring these cars back to life. If mine were to catch fire like this, I'd honestly doubt I'd have the drive to do it all over again.
I've spoke with him. He'll be posting here soon.
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05-19-2018 | #12 |
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Re: I saw a 86 Narrowbody prototype for sale
Hi Guys - I had some trouble getting logged into the net - now its OK
sorry you all feel bad about my post. On today of the Royal Wedding I can now post a reply This car is more than just a narrow body with a zr1 engine - its the earliest survivor of the LT5 program. It comes with SO much history and paperwork that I collected from the time I saved it from the junkyard in UK to now. I also have a load more prototype stuff including another chassis (as in HotB) and ph1 engine, 6 spd trans etc The whole package of exclusivity should be valued in XS of $200k I am in California now back in Uk June 1st I can be contacted keef@eurovettes.com at any time Cheers Keith I hope the gathering is a great success - so sorry I cant be there |
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Re: I saw a 86 Narrowbody prototype for sale
No hard feelings over the post, but even someone with money is going to be turned off by the “if you have to ask...” comment.
I think most people who frequent the forum are aware of what the car is. The car really isn’t anything more than a narrow body with an LT5, no matter what the provenance is. It sucks about the fire. I wouldn’t wish that upon anyone’s collector car regardless of value or rarity. 200k? Not in a million years. Not that it’s an unrealistic figure for a car of that significance in general, but because of what the car is specifically. A c4. As it sits, with all the extras, it’s probably worth 20-50k to someone who is in love with zr1s, has deep pockets, and/or a lot of free time. I hope some does purchase it and continue the project. Best of luck with the sale. Quote:
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05-20-2018 | #14 |
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Re: I saw a 86 Narrowbody prototype for sale
I just don't understand how anyone can be so rude about someone else's car, no matter what your personal feelings are.
Keith, we all know how important this car is to the heritage of the ZR-1.
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05-20-2018 | #15 |
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Re: I saw a 86 Narrowbody prototype for sale
My view gents a 1 of 1 car. Value is determined by what somebody else is willing to pay for something. The owner can ask any price they wish. Yellow is a pretty htf color as well.
However I feel like the comment if you have to ask was a little rude. And if I may so since I was born in Northampton England, a little toffee nosed. I wish the seller luck in finding a restoration professional to rehab this now project and wish to express zero ill will for him and his car. It is a part of the ZR-1 history Would love to have it. Way beyond my reach but hey I'm ok with that. GC
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This. Not one single potential buyer is going to be impressed by a comment like that. And I’m sure there are ALOT of people who could afford that car, even at 200k, who would have had no idea what to offer. It’s fishing at best, and down right rude and pretentious at worst. But that has nothing to do with the car. |
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05-21-2018 | #17 |
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Re: I saw a 86 Narrowbody prototype for sale
Really?!!!
Really?!!!!!!!!! You guys, this is a piece of history. Not just a car, but a CAR. No more, no less than one of the GT40's that won Lemans. No more, no less than Grumpys original "Swamp Rat". No more, no less than Richard Petty's first #43. Keith, you own a true "One Of A Kind". Sell it to someone who knows what it means and cherishes it for what it is. Anyone who disparages it has no idea what it is or what it's providence is. I will buy a lottery ticket tomorrow and if I win...well............ 'Crabs
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No one in here has disparaged this car. This isn't a race winning car, it's provenance is as a proof of concept test mule. A mish mash of standard C4 parts and ZR1 prototype parts. It's very cool, and unique, but that doesn't mean huge money. And in its current state it has extensive damage, which cuts into that value significantly. If the car and spare parts, as they sit now are worth 200k, then Brett's car is worth 600k... The seller is welcome to ask 200k and anyone is welcome to pony it up. That's how the free market works. |
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05-21-2018 | #19 |
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Re: I saw a 86 Narrowbody prototype for sale
Amazing car. I'm sure some day it will be fully restored and appreciated because of its unique and historical importance
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Re: I saw a 86 Narrowbody prototype for sale
I spoke to Keith recently about rebuilding the car. We?ll see what the future holds.
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