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Trump: I think there is blame on both sides. You look at both sides. I think there is blame object both on both sides. I have no doubt about it. You don't have doubt about it either. If you reported it accurately, you would say that the neo-Nazis started this thing. They showed up in Charlottesville. Excuse me. They didn't put themselves down as neo-Nazis. You had some very bad people in that group. You also had some very fine people on both sides. You had people in that group -- excuse me, excuse me. I saw the same pictures as you did. You had people in that group that were there to protest the taking down, of to them, a very, very important statue and the renaming of a park from Robert E. Lee to another name. No spin needed there. Those are his words, neo-nazi's are very fine people
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I don't see that he lumped all neo nazis as fine people.
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Questions for folks who are against Take a Knee:
Do you think the problem they are protesting is real? |
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I have no idea what they are protesting. During the national anthem is not the time to do it.
Of course the fans can also protest the players. |
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What would be the best way for them to protest and have you understand why they're protesting? |
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Gentlemen please be civil on this Nationally devisive topic. I'm a combat veteran with 30 years of service and I have an opinion as well. However I still believe folks can protest whenever they please. Its a right I fought for along with many other veterans.
However not paying respect to the flag is a disgrace and has no part of the NFL, NASCAR the NBA or any sports for that matter. If you as a player to want to make a statement simply walk off the field en mass if you chose to do so. Anybody want to boycott anything go right ahead. It's your right to do so. Want political change? work for it. However disrespect for our nations flag and our national anthem is a complete disgrace. No matter who you are or where you stand in the argument.
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Disgracing it by say, paying organizations to include it before the start of say professional sports? Or by holding the flag horizontally?
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No Kevin by taking a knee or siting down during the national anthem or the pledge of allegiance means it's disrespectful
If they want to hold each others hands that's fine as well as teammates from peewee ball on up do that. But not during the national anthem. As to holding the flag horizontally its so the stadium can see it much like a flag is displayed and folded over a Veterans coffin in respect of the ultimate sacrifice to his/her country. It's horizontal as well Kevin. GC
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I guess its not just about black players.
Puerto Ricans will have no power for possibly 6months, the US Virgin Islands have been obliterated, North Korea has threatened to shoot down our jets if we get too close, Houston and most of Florida are under water, and u decide to die on the hill for who stands during the national anthem at a football game?!! Seriously, this is your priority Mr. President??!!
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