ZF Doc short throw shifters - Page 2 - ZR-1 Net Registry Forums

-=Jeff=- · 02-21-2021

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Originally Posted by Norwegianmopar

Is this the type you got:
https://core-shifters.com/products/h...ant=9123739651

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Yes I believe that shifter is the same as the Hurst. I had Hurst Shifters in both cars, Isabel just about forgotten the stock shifter is longer. Hurst just seems right.

JThomas · 02-21-2021

I have used the short shifter by ZF Doc in both my '92 and my current '91 ZR-1 and absolutely enjoy them. The shift is a lot more positive and the aesthetics of a shorter shifter was more pleasing.

Thomas ZR-1 · 02-22-2021

If shipping inside EU is preferred: I have a new HURST shifter for sale...just send PM me.

Thomas

Norwegianmopar · 02-22-2021

Marc Haibeck told me this:

-I like the OE shifter. The Hurst shifter shortens the throws by 25% and increases the effort by 25%. The Hurst has a solid shaft so it conducts a little transmission noise into the car. The Boudreau shifter has 25% shorter throws, 25% more effort, but retains the rubber isolator in the shaft so that it does not conduct noise. The rubber oscillator also cushions the shifts like the OE shifter."

Anyone else feel there is more noise with the Hurst?

I have lightweight flywheel and already a bit of transmission noise.

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Norwegianmopar · 02-22-2021

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thomas ZR-1

If shipping inside EU is preferred: I have a new HURST shifter for sale...just send PM me.

Thomas

I cannot send you a PM for "security reasons". Can you send me one? Thanks.

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Erik · 02-22-2021

Quote:

Originally Posted by Norwegianmopar

Marc Haibeck told me this:

-I like the OE shifter. The Hurst shifter shortens the throws by 25% and increases the effort by 25%. The Hurst has a solid shaft so it conducts a little transmission noise into the car. The Boudreau shifter has 25% shorter throws, 25% more effort, but retains the rubber isolator in the shaft so that it does not conduct noise. The rubber oscillator also cushions the shifts like the OE shifter."

Anyone else feel there is more noise with the Hurst?

I have lightweight flywheel and already a bit of transmission noise.

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Marc's advice is never something I'd lightly ignore.

WARP TEN · 02-22-2021

Quote:

Originally Posted by Norwegianmopar

Is this the type you got:
https://core-shifters.com/products/h...ant=9123739651

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I am not sure based on the picture; it was a long time ago and I really only saw it installed. But the Hurst was a bit shorter than the stock one and that is apparent in these photos if you look closely. The first one (#11) is stock; the second is with the Hurst installed. I remember that with the stock shifter, if I had a CD in the slot that had been ejected so it was sticking out, I would hit it with my knuckles shifting into 3rd; with the Hurst I did not hit it. --Bob

Young1 · 02-24-2021

My stock shifter looks great and shifts with 2 fingers.
Does a short shifter make my Z faster?, or safer?, or more reliable?, or handle better?, or more comfortable? IMHO spend 200 bucks on performance brake pads and bias spring, or braided brake lines, or replacement brake, clutch and slave cylinders, cooling hoses, ECM chip.
Hey that?s me. I?m a practical guy.

BigJohn · 02-24-2021

Quote:

Originally Posted by Young1

My stock shifter looks great and shifts with 2 fingers.
Does a short shifter make my Z faster?, or safer?, or more reliable?, or handle better?, or more comfortable? IMHO spend 200 bucks on performance brake pads and bias spring, or braided brake lines, or replacement brake, clutch and slave cylinders, cooling hoses, ECM chip.
Hey that?s me. I?m a practical guy.

Okay!

secondchance · 02-24-2021

Quote:

Originally Posted by Young1

My stock shifter looks great and shifts with 2 fingers.
Does a short shifter make my Z faster?, or safer?, or more reliable?, or handle better?, or more comfortable? IMHO spend 200 bucks on performance brake pads and bias spring, or braided brake lines, or replacement brake, clutch and slave cylinders, cooling hoses, ECM chip.
Hey that?s me. I?m a practical guy.

After performance brake pads and bias spring, or braided brake lines, or replacement brake, clutch and slave cylinders, cooling hoses, ECM chip, I replaced the shifter.

02-21-2021	#12
JThomas Join Date: May 2008 Location: Okemos, MI. Posts: 1,189	Re: ZF Doc short throw shifters I have used the short shifter by ZF Doc in both my '92 and my current '91 ZR-1 and absolutely enjoy them. The shift is a lot more positive and the aesthetics of a shorter shifter was more pleasing. __________________ Joe Thomas Corvette Club of Michigan NCRS-Michigan Chapter Member NCM Master Ambassador NCM Lifetime Member Former NCM Board Member 1991 ZR-1 Melon Copper Metallic/Black 1992 ZR-1 Bright Red/Black (Sold) 1995 ZR-1 Bright Aqua/Gray (Sold) 2012 ZR1 Super Sonic Blue / Dark Titanium

02-22-2021	#13
Thomas ZR-1 Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Germany Posts: 230	Re: ZF Doc short throw shifters If shipping inside EU is preferred: I have a new HURST shifter for sale...just send PM me. Thomas __________________ Best thing in life is a ZR-1 ride

02-22-2021	#14
Norwegianmopar Join Date: Mar 2018 Location: Norway Posts: 345	Re: ZF Doc short throw shifters Marc Haibeck told me this: -I like the OE shifter. The Hurst shifter shortens the throws by 25% and increases the effort by 25%. The Hurst has a solid shaft so it conducts a little transmission noise into the car. The Boudreau shifter has 25% shorter throws, 25% more effort, but retains the rubber isolator in the shaft so that it does not conduct noise. The rubber oscillator also cushions the shifts like the OE shifter." Anyone else feel there is more noise with the Hurst? I have lightweight flywheel and already a bit of transmission noise. Sent from my SM-G955F using ZR-1 Net Registry mobile app __________________ Roy Martin 1994 ZR-1 #112 Admiral Blue/Black Dana 4:10 Aluminum flywheel Corsa exhaust Watson headers Haibeck chip 470 HP/399 RWHP 1991 ZR-1 #400 White/Red (SOLD) Dana 4:10 Powder coated engine Haibeck performance chip Borla exhaust

02-24-2021	#18
Young1 Join Date: Sep 2016 Location: Ocala, FL Posts: 896	Re: ZF Doc short throw shifters My stock shifter looks great and shifts with 2 fingers. Does a short shifter make my Z faster?, or safer?, or more reliable?, or handle better?, or more comfortable? IMHO spend 200 bucks on performance brake pads and bias spring, or braided brake lines, or replacement brake, clutch and slave cylinders, cooling hoses, ECM chip. Hey that?s me. I?m a practical guy. __________________ Steve Young 1991 ZR-1 Quasar Blue Metallic/Black #729 Second Owner 1991 ZR-1 Dark Red Metallic/Black #2040 SOLD 1990 ZR-1 Dark Red Metallic/Saddle #1670 SOLD Double your happiness.....complain half as much.