Help locating a CCM module?

[-=Jeff=-]

Originally Posted by Dynomite

Make sure the CHIP is Fully Installed Correctly
It could be in Limp Home Mode or Diagnostic Mode if not fully installed correctly.

in the ECM.. there is no socketed chip in the CCM

[efnfast]

Before I dig into this too deep:
Facts:
The car won't start.
The A.C. unit stays energized with the key removed.
Pull the fuse to the AC, car starts and runs normally.
Reinstall fuse, everything ok.
Car has aftermarket stereo, everything looks ok, but no sound to speakers (unrelated?) system installed five years ago.
Aftermarket alarm/remote entry/remote windows/remote hatch.
The relay inside the drivers door to open the windows by remote has failed in the past due to water damage.
The windows currently don't work with the remote, but due with the door switch.
It was pouring rain when the problem first happened.
On the ride home, the AC went back to turning off with the key off.
I have not tried restarting the car normally yet. Glad to be home with the car in the garage.
Speculation:
The remote windows do not work. Wet relay again?
Was this system taped off the AC power feed and is somehow backfeeding to the AC unit and in turn the AC is telling the CCM not to let the car start???

I'll find out tonight if the car will start normally.
I'll find out tomorrow if the system pulls power from the AC.

Paul Workman and Jim Voter, I can't thank you enough for giving me your day to fuss with my car. Marc H, thanks for letting us pick your brain. Doug, thanks for sticking with me.
I'd have been screwed without you guys. -Steve

[Dynomite]

Originally Posted by -=Jeff=-

in the ECM.. there is no socketed chip in the CCM

Yes.....I am talking ECM.......just in case....lots of weird stuff happens with improperly installed ECM Chip.....

[efnfast]

Update:
Fuse in, key out- AC off (normal)
Car starts and runs normally.
I'm liking and hoping for my theory. I'll talk to the stereo guy tomorrow.

[QB93Z]

Originally Posted by efnfast

Before I dig into this too deep:
Facts:
The car won't start.
The A.C. unit stays energized with the key removed.
Pull the fuse to the AC, car starts and runs normally.
Reinstall fuse, everything ok.
Car has aftermarket stereo, everything looks ok, but no sound to speakers (unrelated?) system installed five years ago.
Aftermarket alarm/remote entry/remote windows/remote hatch.
The relay inside the drivers door to open the windows by remote has failed in the past due to water damage.
The windows currently don't work with the remote, but due with the door switch.
It was pouring rain when the problem first happened.
On the ride home, the AC went back to turning off with the key off.
I have not tried restarting the car normally yet. Glad to be home with the car in the garage.
Speculation:
The remote windows do not work. Wet relay again?
Was this system taped off the AC power feed and is somehow backfeeding to the AC unit and in turn the AC is telling the CCM not to let the car start???

I'll find out tonight if the car will start normally.
I'll find out tomorrow if the system pulls power from the AC.

Paul Workman and Jim Voter, I can't thank you enough for giving me your day to fuss with my car. Marc H, thanks for letting us pick your brain. Doug, thanks for sticking with me.
I'd have been screwed without you guys. -Steve

Since the AC Relay is closest to the door, I suspect that the alarm system installer tapped into AC circuit to get power. I would start there with further investigation.

Good luck,

Jim

[efnfast]

Originally Posted by QB93Z

Since the AC Relay is closest to the door, I suspect that the alarm system installer tapped into AC circuit to get power. I would start there with further investigation.

Good luck,

Jim

That's where I plan to start. Encouraging to know there may be hope to my theory. Thanks again for the help Jim.

[efnfast]

Stereo guy thinks it unlikely he hooked to AC. Bringing the car to him next Thursday.

[WARP TEN]

Steve-- Glad you made it home OK and isn't it great that we have such a really fine group of guys like Paul, Marc, Jim, Doug and others who helped try to fix your problem. I am hoping you find a simple solution to this; it sounds like you are certainly on the right track. Good luck with it and keep us posted. --Bob

[efnfast]

Thanks Bob, hope it turns into a simple solution. Kinda' scary when these guys say "never seen that before".

[Paul Workman]

Originally Posted by efnfast

*... scary when these guys say "never seen that before".

Ah, but dat makes it FUN!