What HP/TQ do older Cammed 368's Post? - Page 2 - ZR-1 Net Registry Forums

alnukem · 03-13-2015

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Originally Posted by LGAFF

You will probably need to put in new intake cams

Why do you say that?

LGAFF · 03-13-2015

if they are JEal cams they tend to fail; unless the car has good oil flow to the cams

LGAFF · 03-13-2015

http://zr1specialist.com/HAT%20Web/f...s/DCP_1123.JPG

Kevin · 03-13-2015

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Originally Posted by LGAFF

if they are JEal cams they tend to fail; unless the car has good oil flow to the cams

the early jeal cams were fine. it was the later ones that were bad. If it hasn't broken by now it's probably ok

LGAFF · 03-13-2015

Billet cams were the issue; its hit and miss. I have a Jeal cam car on my lift right now

alnukem · 03-14-2015

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Originally Posted by Kevin

the early jeal cams were fine. it was the later ones that were bad. If it hasn't broken by now it's probably ok

I'm going with this. It ran strong.

FU · 03-14-2015

Al, My 415 car had Jeal cams in it. The cams are in the 441 now. They have @ 50K miles on them with no problem. Use oil with a high zinc compound in it and forget about it. As stated above the early cams are fine.

LGAFF · 03-14-2015

This is the note Geoff sent to me when I asked...I was trying to save the cams in my car. My cams seemed fine, but they are the Billet Steel. This is why I was asking in another thread about possible oil passage issues in early production heads; causing lifter tick..maybe even the lobe failure I posted. I was curious if the cam failures seen by some were 1)always early production heads 2)the same cylinder.

Corey Henderson also has Jeal EA22 cams and no issues...

For the record Geoff is a super nice guy also pretty accomplished....Jaguar XJ220 program, ZR-1, and now the Dodge Hellcat.

So if you have the cast version and or billet no oil pressure issues you are good...

Hi, we used nitrided EN40B steel for the first run and chill cast iron for everything else. The issue is not heat treatment but engine oil pressure. If your engine had factory oil pressure the steel cams last just fine. Anything else they don't which is why we went to CCI
Hope that helps

It would be nice to see Geoff come back into the ZR-1 community

LGAFF · 03-14-2015

Frank what oil did you run, what is the idle set at?

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Originally Posted by FU

Al, My 415 car had Jeal cams in it. The cams are in the 441 now. They have @ 50K miles on them with no problem. Use oil with a high zinc compound in it and forget about it. As stated above the early cams are fine.

Jagdpanzer · 03-14-2015

Lee,
Can you please explain factory oil pressure further?

03-13-2015	#12
LGAFF Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Crystal Lake, IL Posts: 7,194	Re: What HP/TQ do older Cammed 368's Post? if they are JEal cams they tend to fail; unless the car has good oil flow to the cams __________________ LGAFF 90 #966-150K miles-sold 92 #234-sold 1987 Callaway TT #17 1991 ZR-1 #1359

03-13-2015	#13
LGAFF Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Crystal Lake, IL Posts: 7,194	Re: What HP/TQ do older Cammed 368's Post? http://zr1specialist.com/HAT%20Web/f...s/DCP_1123.JPG __________________ LGAFF 90 #966-150K miles-sold 92 #234-sold 1987 Callaway TT #17 1991 ZR-1 #1359

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LGAFF Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Crystal Lake, IL Posts: 7,194	Re: What HP/TQ do older Cammed 368's Post? Billet cams were the issue; its hit and miss. I have a Jeal cam car on my lift right now __________________ LGAFF 90 #966-150K miles-sold 92 #234-sold 1987 Callaway TT #17 1991 ZR-1 #1359

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FU Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Found Member Posts: 4,346	Re: What HP/TQ do older Cammed 368's Post? Al, My 415 car had Jeal cams in it. The cams are in the 441 now. They have @ 50K miles on them with no problem. Use oil with a high zinc compound in it and forget about it. As stated above the early cams are fine. __________________ Frank Urbo. NCM Lifetime member # 982 Registry Founding # 237

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LGAFF Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Crystal Lake, IL Posts: 7,194	Re: What HP/TQ do older Cammed 368's Post? This is the note Geoff sent to me when I asked...I was trying to save the cams in my car. My cams seemed fine, but they are the Billet Steel. This is why I was asking in another thread about possible oil passage issues in early production heads; causing lifter tick..maybe even the lobe failure I posted. I was curious if the cam failures seen by some were 1)always early production heads 2)the same cylinder. Corey Henderson also has Jeal EA22 cams and no issues... For the record Geoff is a super nice guy also pretty accomplished....Jaguar XJ220 program, ZR-1, and now the Dodge Hellcat. So if you have the cast version and or billet no oil pressure issues you are good... Hi, we used nitrided EN40B steel for the first run and chill cast iron for everything else. The issue is not heat treatment but engine oil pressure. If your engine had factory oil pressure the steel cams last just fine. Anything else they don't which is why we went to CCI Hope that helps It would be nice to see Geoff come back into the ZR-1 community __________________ LGAFF 90 #966-150K miles-sold 92 #234-sold 1987 Callaway TT #17 1991 ZR-1 #1359 Last edited by LGAFF; 03-14-2015 at 08:41 AM.

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Jagdpanzer Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Northern VA Posts: 2,651	Re: What HP/TQ do older Cammed 368's Post? Lee, Can you please explain factory oil pressure further? __________________ Phil Wasinger 1994 Torch Red ZR-1 WAZOO Member George Braml Intake