ZR-1 Net Registry Forums  

Go Back   ZR-1 Net Registry Forums > C4 ZR-1 > C4 ZR-1 Technical Postings

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 06-01-2024   #11
phrogs
 
phrogs's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Kalamazoo MI
Posts: 1,743
Default Re: Engine noise- stuck lifter?

haha Not for me My tool control program is on point.



Quote:
Originally Posted by WARP TEN View Post
Lots of good advice here, but I would be remiss if I didn't once again post my idea for the strange ticking sound. --Bob
__________________
JOHNNY P

Currently own

90 ZR-1 #845 DRM 500 engine package

90 #226 Parts car Hit me up if you need anything.
phrogs is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-01-2024   #12
HAWAIIZR-1
 
HAWAIIZR-1's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Japan
Posts: 3,582
Default Re: Engine noise- stuck lifter?

Quote:
Originally Posted by WARP TEN View Post
Lots of good advice here, but I would be remiss if I didn't once again post my idea for the strange ticking sound. --Bob
😂
__________________
Craig
"ZR-1 NO KA 'OI"
"ZR-1 ICHIBAN"
1995 #228 Black/Black with Dunn Heads
ZR-1 owner since September 2003
ZR-1 Net Registry Founding Member #0074
NCM Lifetime Member #2048

HAWAIIZR-1 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-01-2024   #13
WARP TEN
 
WARP TEN's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Lake Bluff, IL
Posts: 2,082
Default Re: Engine noise- stuck lifter?

Quote:
Originally Posted by phrogs View Post
haha Not for me My tool control program is on point.
Watch out Johnny--this soon could be you....Bob
Attached Images
File Type: jpg NoTools.JPG (115.2 KB, 25 views)
__________________
2016 Long Beach Red Z06 #10281 "POPS Z"
1995 Polo Green #409 "WARP TEN"--Haibeck 350/510 package, 4.10s, Hurst, Stock Exhaust with QTP Cutouts
--Sold but still running strong
1993 Quasar Blue #161 "HIL KING"
--Sold but still running strong, now with more than 120,000 miles
1967 Marlboro Maroon/Saddle Corvette Coupe 300 hp/4-spd
--Sold a long time ago
ZR-1 Net Registry Founding Member #95
NCM Lifetime Member
Favorite Quote--Attributed to Mickey Thompson:
"Too Much Horsepower is Almost Enough"
WARP TEN is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 06-01-2024   #14
1991 Corvette ZR-1
 
Join Date: Sep 2018
Location: Florida
Posts: 304
Default Re: Engine noise- stuck lifter?

Just armchair quarterbacking the issue, but the rev to 3K rpm seemingly resolving the issue, to me, indicates an oil pressure or quality issue. The result is a ticking lifter or lifters. Does the actual drivability of the vehicle seem different? From a cruising perspective, or moderate acceleration, a failing coil pack will not allow you to maintain anything close to the performance you were familiar with before the issue developed. Unhappy ticking valvetrain will, it will just sound like a sewing machine from hell.

A bad or failing coil pack?s performance should not improve with increased demand in revolutions from air, fuel and now the significant increase in spark production demand from idle to 3K.

Furthermore, the heat generated from a cold idle time to a fully heat soaked motor from idling while diagnosing the issue should have an adverse impact on the failing coil capability to clear up when revved. You mentioned sludge on the distick, despite newer oil being changed in. If you can ohm the coil packs cold and hot and they check out, an oil change may be an easy option for next step.

With fresh oil, a few short drives SHOULD completely resolve the ticking lifter. If that is the case, something is in that pan that is compromising any oil put in over time and the valve train is not happy.

Last edited by 1991 Corvette ZR-1; 06-01-2024 at 06:59 PM.
1991 Corvette ZR-1 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-07-2024   #15
Tim555
 
Join Date: Mar 2024
Location: Northeast
Posts: 44
Default Re: Engine noise- stuck lifter?

Update on this. I checked the resistance of the coil in the affected cylinder. It was 21.3k ohms cold and 22k ohms hot. I did notice that I can hear a noise under the car as well, and can feel an exhaust leak where the header connects to the rest of the exhaust on this side. The sound seemed more substantial than an exhaust leak ticking, and I don?t know if that leak was there before I started hearing engine sounds.

The cylinder for the engine that I thought was making the noise seemed to be a bit cooler than the others. An infrared thermometer on that part of the header showed temps 60 degrees cooler on an idling engine. Seems like the exhaust leak may be unrelated to the other noise I have, but the sound is also apparent when you stick your head under the car by the drivers door.
Tim555 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-07-2024   #16
Tim555
 
Join Date: Mar 2024
Location: Northeast
Posts: 44
Default Re: Engine noise- stuck lifter?

Video from under the car

https://youtube.com/shorts/sTq_7Pym0...vOYoK-Qcm1TaNr
Tim555 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-10-2024   #17
Matt B
 
Matt B's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2021
Location: Beautiful Bavaria
Posts: 523
Default Re: Engine noise- stuck lifter?

I tend to agree that it's not a coil pack issue. I had a faulty coil last year, one cylinder was down to no spark, and there was no noticeable noise but a MASSIVE loss on power. Car was merely driveable at all.
Which is interesting by the way, as in my early ZR-1 days I accidentally drove a short stretch with one spark plug wire plugged off - and didn't even realize it for a while.

So, for whatever reason a bad coil has a much more severe impact.
__________________
ZR-1 #638/1991
Matt B is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-20-2024   #18
Tim555
 
Join Date: Mar 2024
Location: Northeast
Posts: 44
Default Re: Engine noise- stuck lifter?

Update on this. The noise seemed the go away. I was concerned about the sludge at the bottom of the dipstick so I changed the oil. It was pretty dirty despite the dealer saying it was changed in February (1000 miles ago, or so). I am very concerned about metal that appears to be in the oil. See photo. It looks gold. The rattling/lifter noise a few weeks ago sounded like lifters on a dry start, and then just a lifter tick.maybe a momentary disruption kn oilmto a lifter. Would this produce metal? I should mention I did have to drive a screw driver through the filter to get it off, but I don?t think this is from the filter.
Attached Images
File Type: jpg IMG_0311.jpg (108.6 KB, 24 views)
Tim555 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-21-2024   #19
WARP TEN
 
WARP TEN's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Lake Bluff, IL
Posts: 2,082
Default Re: Engine noise- stuck lifter?

Did you save any of the oil? If so, you could send it out for analysis to one of the companies which do this. I don't know specifically who does it but others here have that information. --Bob
__________________
2016 Long Beach Red Z06 #10281 "POPS Z"
1995 Polo Green #409 "WARP TEN"--Haibeck 350/510 package, 4.10s, Hurst, Stock Exhaust with QTP Cutouts
--Sold but still running strong
1993 Quasar Blue #161 "HIL KING"
--Sold but still running strong, now with more than 120,000 miles
1967 Marlboro Maroon/Saddle Corvette Coupe 300 hp/4-spd
--Sold a long time ago
ZR-1 Net Registry Founding Member #95
NCM Lifetime Member
Favorite Quote--Attributed to Mickey Thompson:
"Too Much Horsepower is Almost Enough"
WARP TEN is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 06-21-2024   #20
Tim555
 
Join Date: Mar 2024
Location: Northeast
Posts: 44
Default Re: Engine noise- stuck lifter?

Quote:
Originally Posted by WARP TEN View Post
Did you save any of the oil? If so, you could send it out for analysis to one of the companies which do this. I don't know specifically who does it but others here have that information. --Bob
I did save some. I?ll send a sample out when the blackstone oil sampling kits come in. I looked in the oil drain pan this morning and there was lots of glitter.
Tim555 is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 09:39 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
Copyright ZR-1 Net Registry 2020