New Z06

[edram454]

Originally Posted by XfireZ51

Ed,

You seriously expect a 80k+ car to manhandle a purpose built $1.5M starship like the P1? Let's interject some reality into the discussion. And there's another youtube where a Z06 chews up a new Viper.
Besides, its pretty unusual to run up on another C4 ZR-1. How often will you be encountering P1s? Although you do live in Florida.

The McLaren MP4 list for 371k but one can be had with less than 300 miles for 227k. it has a 3.8l twin turbo making 641 hp. numbers dont look too ridiculous. it has less power than the z06. it is not a million dollar car even loaded up to the hilt. In Miami, there are plenty of lambos, mclarens, ferraris galor, panoz,,etc. leaving our corvette club christmas party in coconut grove I saw a Koenigsegg in the parking lot. Lots of bucks here so they buy these cars because of the notoriety not because they are automotive enthusiasts,, for the most part.

I just dont believe that the new z06 is such a awesome flagship vehicle like some tend to think. I was more impressed with the c6 z06 than the c7 supercharged z06 that has come out. Sure it makes more power but it does have a power adder stock. why is a chrysler challenger and charger making more power than a corvette??? A 4 door charger making 707 hp and a z06 corvette 650?? why does ferrari, porsche, bmw, mclaren, Koenigsegg and Lamborghini use TURBO CHARGING?? It makes more power and takes nothing away from the drivetrain.... it takes horsepower to spin up the supercharger but zero for the turbo.. Look at what callaway did with the 1988 sledgehammer.. 254mph twin turbo old school 400 small black with forged internals... no mystery.. no secret.. massive power..900 detuned.. 1100 properly tuned. I just expected more from Chevrolet.

[edram454]

Originally Posted by Z06scentair

Why not just buy a used 11-13 ZR1, pulley it down and smoke em all? Saving around 30k.

The LS3 is tried and true as a platform that can handle 750hp +

much rather have this than a new z06. I just read an article that a 800 mile z06 just chucked up the motor. it blew its motor while the owner was trying to break her in for this weekends track even. He said he shifted before redline when all hell broke loose. Chevy was notified and wants the motor sent back to them for evaluation and research. The customer will have a new motor installed under warranty. now his numbers dont match!!

[XfireZ51]

Just for the record, a P1 is 1.5MILLION.

[edram454]

Originally Posted by XfireZ51

Just for the record, a P1 is 1.5MILLION.

understood. the one at the track was a mp4. it was the low level mclaren. they treated it like a junker. multiple drivers drove it around the oval and after trashing it probably 100 laps, turned on the ac and went home. I have seen many mp4's around town. dwayne wade of the heat has a red one he drives daily around miami. I dont know what engine a p1 has but 640hp is not a ton of horsepower either.

[rkreigh]

it's nice to even compare a Z06 to ANY model of the McLearen P series

the new 650 looks pretty good, make mine a spider, and oh, yea, I'll need the 300 k and the 20k to keep it on the road each year

the new Z06 will emerge as a "bang for the buck leader" and until they are tuned up, the haters will hate

now one just blew up with 800 miles on it so the GM bashers are out in force

I'm happy my old LPE is within spittin distance of the Z06

the NEW ZR-1 is the one I'm going to be excited to see

I would really love to see a world beater TT mid engine car

GM has the resources, but I'm not sure they have the cajones and the commitment now that old Zora is gone

Dave M. where are you buddy to push the envelope??

I'll stick with my "old school" TT Z06 for now, rod knock and all

it's still lighter and faster, although the new car does look pretty killer and I do love taking the top off!!

[Tony Davila]

That is why my favorite corvette is the C4, very inexpensive to mod and because you have $150,000 left over in your pocket.

Don't forget in about 20 years all these new cars with all the electronics may total the cars due to the expense of the repair. Just saying..........

[8cam]

The McLaren 12C and the updated 650S are formidable carbon-fiber monocoque supercars with some of the most advanced driving dynamics on the planet. They are supposedly so good that anyone can get in and immediately look like a hero. A Z06, as good as it is, requires skill to exploit. No surprises the McLaren walked away, even though the all-out track performance should be relatively close.

Z06 vs Viper? Puleeeese. I may be in the minority here, but I don't give two craps about how fast it is in a straight line. The Zs aero package is very good, and it will walk the Viper on a road course, just like it's supposed to. Anyone trying to drag race a Z06 is using a knife to drive a nail.

I love the C7 and keep looking at one...but for the money, I love my ZR-1 and will eventually pick up something else as a driver.

[BigJohn]

Originally Posted by edram454

understood. the one at the track was a mp4. it was the low level mclaren. they treated it like a junker. multiple drivers drove it around the oval and after trashing it probably 100 laps, turned on the ac and went home. I have seen many mp4's around town. dwayne wade of the heat has a red one he drives daily around miami. I dont know what engine a p1 has but 640hp is not a ton of horsepower either.

Ed how many ZR-1s could you buy for 1.5 million???
Say you bought 50 at 400 hp; that would be 20,000 hp for the same price!!!

[edram454]

Originally Posted by BigJohn

Ed how many ZR-1s could you buy for 1.5 million???
Say you bought 50 at 400 hp; that would be 20,000 hp for the same price!!!

who is talking 1.5 million?? it was a mclaren mp4-12c... can be had right now for 154k on ebay. I never said it was a p1 .. what I did say was that it was a trasher low level mclaren mp4 with multiple idiot drivers smoking the corvette at will. I mean beating the tar out of it. The new z06 could not pass a porsche turbo, a bmw twin turbo and even a 1992 mustang fox body with a new coyote dohc engine installed. It stayed with these cars but could not pass any of them. the only cars it passed was a relatively stock c6 grand sport convertible, spec miatas, camaros.

Believe me nobody was more disappointed than me seeing that trashing of the z06. so what it can handle!! it will get its nuts kicked in on the street that is for sure by a viper. Our zr1's are nice but are no contest with the likes of some of those track prepped cars. I would imagine some of our members with 415 engines and set up track suspensions would do well and I am sure would pass that z06 like the mclaren did. A new c6 zr1 is over 120k. A used mclaren mp4-12c is 155k. it is not that far off even though the mclaren is used with very low miles. Nobody is talking 1.5 MILLION DOLLAR CARS!

GM has the money and the engineers to make a car that truly stands out not one that runs with the pack. I hope the new zr1, if there is such a beast, will stand out like the zr1 should. the c6 zr1 held its own with MILLION Dollar cars but like always the upped the ante. the c7, so far, a bit disappointing.

[BigJohn]

How was driving?