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Old 01-04-2020   #91
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Default Re: 93 Starter Not Engaging

If you still have the OBD1 tool you can scan for Door switch problems & CCM codes.
If you do remove a door switch be aware the backing plate for the screws will drop down inside the door if both are removed. Remove one & replace with a much longer one which will hold the plate & allow access to the wiring.

You have determined power is leaving the LCD fuse which feeds directly to the SEC. Lt , chime etc. yet no SEC. Lt. Will a 'no start' issue result if the SEc.Lt circuit is open( blown bulb) .Perhaps Marc H. or others could answer this.
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Old 01-04-2020   #92
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The fuse has no power through it at this time and it has been replaced. I will check the rear view mirror light. When I used the scan tool the only thing that happened was it turned the cooling fan on? I couldn't get any codes to display. When the FSM shows up I think that will help to track this down and thank you for that.
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Old 01-06-2020   #93
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I assume you mean the RH. illum fuse has no power through it?
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Old 01-06-2020   #94
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Also tracking indicates " attempted delivery notice card left" . Did you get the Notice Card??
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Old 01-06-2020   #95
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You are correct, the fuse has no power at either side of it. And yes I did get an attempted delivery slip, I guess they were requiring signature, and no one there during daytime, so I left a signature on the slip. Never even realized it could have been you. Thanks again, Ed
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Old 01-06-2020   #96
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Received the FSM today! Wow, lots of info. Looking at the wiring diagram it appears RH courtesy light, power seats , etc get power from the 30amp power seat circuit breaker which has not been checked. I know the power seat is not working and interior courtesy lights are not either so maybe this has something to do with the problem. Again, I can't thank you enough Bill, that was amazing.
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Old 01-07-2020   #97
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Checked the power seat circuit breaker and its good. All interior lights work when turning them on using the interior switch but do not go on when doors are opened. Seems like whatever is controlling power to door light switches probably also controls security light circuit.
Also, remote fob is also not working.
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Old 01-07-2020   #98
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Default Re: 93 Starter Not Engaging

Do you have horn and radio operation?
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Old 01-07-2020   #99
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power out of LCD 5 amp fuse feeds the following:
Instrument Cluster
CCM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Tone Generator
Horn Relay
Courtesy lamp Relay
Radio control Head

The CCM is responsible for controlling the starter enable circuit!!!
so either it is not getting power, it has a short, or it took a dump.
You are missing at least 4 of those 6.
Circuit 1902 warrants review!
Marty
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Old 01-07-2020   #100
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Definetly have radio and power antenna, never checked horn. Did check LCD fuse and it was good with power passing through it.
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