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Old 09-10-2009   #21
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I agree on principal with those who say it can be repaired, but this guy hit me in a construction zone, with the State Troopers directing traffic. He wasn't paying attention, and hit me at maybe 5 MPH. I was on my horn to get him to stop. I couldn't move forward because of the guy stopped ahead of me!!! I want his insurance company to pay to correct the damage caused, not "fix" a broken part. I do not want them to be raped in the process as would be the case in the original post. In the past this has been the trend and the reason we pay so damn much for our insurance now.

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Old 09-10-2009   #22
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I do not want them to be raped in the process as would be the case in the original post. In the past this has been the trend and the reason we pay so damn much for our insurance now.

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If thats the case what are you going to do,put a used part on your car?I didnt know the specifics of the damage,now I do.I can guarantee you this right now,If some moron runs into my car I DONT CARE WHERE THE PART COMES FROM OR WHAT IT COSTS.If its out there and its new its going on the car.Im not paying the bill.If this is the ONLY place that has the part,so be it.In this situation you have no choice but to get the part at an outrageous price and be done with it.You might want to take a good look at that bumper,it might be damaged as well.When these bumpers all involved in a rear end collision,the impact generates heat and this with the pressure of the impact can damage the urethane.Post up a picture of the damage.
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If I had the 2 pieces I could take a look and see what it would take to rework a non Z piece.The only thing that will blow it out of the water is the mounting studs,if these interfere with the ZR-1 bumper.Im not working right now so money is tight to say the least but I love a challenge so I just might go out and find a piece of bumper trim from a base car and see what I can do with it.Next challenge,I will need a ZR-1 piece,not taking it off my car.Maybe borrow the damaged piece from the OP?
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Old 09-10-2009   #24
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There's nothing on the standard 91-96 car that can be adapted. The entire rear fascia which includes the "trim molding" from wheel well to wheel well and the rear lower fenders is one piece.
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Old 09-10-2009   #25
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How about reproducing them

I saw Jay Leno had a small CnC machine to reproduce parts for his old cars cost $3000.

Here is the video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ggvzcGdZsTc

Somebody look into this.

I'll pitch in on this deal.

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Old 09-10-2009   #26
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You might want to take a good look at that bumper,it might be damaged as well.When these bumpers all involved in a rear end collision,the impact generates heat and this with the pressure of the impact can damage the urethane.Post up a picture of the damage.
The other drivers insurance guy, that did the estimate was a car guy, knew the history of the ZR-1 and it's uniqueness. He has put in the paperwork the possibility of hidden damage, difficult parts procurement etc. The work required and monetary portion is open to cover such an instance. The body shop I chose specializes in classic cars and has restored a number of older Corvettes. They are currently restoring a '63 coupe. I think this will get done right, and I will have them buy the Golden part if I have to. I would rather have a more reasonable alternative.

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On 91-95 the trim is molded in the front bumper and the fender panels.Doors,short QP piece and all rear bumper trim is separate from the bumper.
This is correct. The plain C4 has the rub strip (molding) that is molded to the rear body only. Even the 90 ZR-1 was different as the front bumber strip was seperate as was the doors and dog legs back to the rear. Jeff is correct for the 91-95 the front would change to the molded in style however the Doors, doglegs and rear strip would be all seperate the entire ZR-1 model run of 6 years. GC
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The other drivers insurance guy, that did the estimate was a car guy, knew the history of the ZR-1 and it's uniqueness. He has put in the paperwork the possibility of hidden damage, difficult parts procurement etc. The work required and monetary portion is open to cover such an instance. The body shop I chose specializes in classic cars and has restored a number of older Corvettes. They are currently restoring a '63 coupe. I think this will get done right, and I will have them buy the Golden part if I have to. I would rather have a more reasonable alternative.

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Rich based upon this Let them buy the part. If its not coming out of your end or your accident experience rating. Expensve yes, retain the old piece maybe it can be repaired. GC
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Old 09-11-2009   #29
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I would rather have a more reasonable alternative.

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Unfortunatly there isnt one,not at the moment anyway.
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Rich based upon this Let them buy the part. If its not coming out of your end or your accident experience rating. Expensve yes, retain the old piece maybe it can be repaired. GC

No way I would have a repaired molding. It's the insurance companies job to make your car "whole" again. They have adjusters and salvage yards. Trust me, they will find a cheaper source, if they can't then they will just have to pay. It is what it is and I'd be specific in telling them you don't want any repaired parts and that you want to see the rear moldings before they put them on your car.

I would not feel guilty at all in your situation. Either used, in good shape or new. That is what insurance is for, think of all the premiums you have paid over the years.
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