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Old 06-24-2024   #11
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I couldn't find Stage 1 Dr. Greekenstein cams are they pepmeierengines.com cams? Or are they Pete the greeks? I remember reading about Pete work sometime ago?
You can find the specs of Petes cams here: https://zr1pete.wordpress.com/services/

Pepmeier Engines does custom tool steel cam blanks that are machined to your specification.
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Old 06-25-2024   #12
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My '94 has custom Web-Cam camshafts designed by a previous owner.

I believe they're roughly the following @ 0.050 lift. Not sure on the LSA.

(Edited per Todd's observations.)

Intake: 238* duration, .435" lift.
Exhaust: 221* duration, .432" lift.

Idle: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YhmimYEVaQA

Dyno: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H6PyzYl_LlE
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Old 06-25-2024   #13
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My '94 has custom Web-Cam camshafts designed by a previous owner.

I believe they're roughly the following @ centerline. Not sure on the LSA.

Intake: 275* duration, .435" lift.
Exhaust: 248* duration, .432" lift.

Idle: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YhmimYEVaQA

Dyno: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H6PyzYl_LlE
The lift figures look reasonable for welded cams. Those duration numbers, though, don't make sense. 275 degrees intake would have to be seat-to-seat (total) duration. Most people refer to the .050" duration numbers, which would be something much less, around 230 degrees? Stock is 214 primary / 228 secondary.

248 exhaust wouldn't be a reasonable duration @ .050" lift, but also too short for total duration. i'd be curious to see the cam card on those.
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Old 06-25-2024   #14
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i'd be curious to see the cam card on those.
This is what I have, no actual cam card.
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File Type: pdf 93-ZR-1-WebCam-As-Built-Cam-Doctor-Measurements.pdf (2.77 MB, 10 views)
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Old 06-25-2024   #15
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As was said before, there are three ways I know of to do cams on the LT5.

1) regrinding stock cams. Several guys go this route, especially on a stock displacement engine. In this type, the base circle of the cam is ground smaller by, say .030" maybe more, which translates into more lift and ability to cut it with more duration. The concern here is taking up the added clearance to the bucket lifter... there is only so much travel. Can require a valve job to raise the stem height.

2) welded stock cams. Not as prevalent, although I think one of the tuners uses that method. Web cams is the typical provider of this service. I don't have any first hand experience with welded cams.

3) new cores. These are usually machined from billet, although there were a limited number of unfinished chill-cast iron OEM cores out there several years ago. I use billet steel cores, made from high quality tool steel. These are expensive, but can be tailored to any profile needed for the application.

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Old 06-25-2024   #16
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This is what I have, no actual cam card.
Cool. Thanks for posting that. Those all seem to be 238-239 ish duration at .050. That seems reasonable, although generally on 4-valve engines the exhaust duration would be significantly less than the intake duration.

.435 lift. I'm thinking these are welded cams, since you said Web Cams.

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Old 06-25-2024   #17
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Cool. Thanks for posting that. Those all seem to be 238-239 ish duration at .050. That seems reasonable, although generally on 4-valve engines the exhaust duration would be significantly less than the intake duration.

.435 lift. I'm thinking these are welded cams, since you said Web Cams.

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Yes, the person who designed the profile told me they were made by Web. The first three pages of the PDF say Intake and are 238-239 at 0.050 now that I'm looking at that line. The last few pages say Exhaust and have 220-221 listed at 0.050. Is 238/220 more what you'd have expected to see? The car's secondaries have been deleted.

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Old 06-25-2024   #18
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Ahh, yes. I didn?t scroll down that far. Sorry


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Old 06-25-2024   #19
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@scorp508 congrats sounds great and nice dyno numbers!
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Old 07-01-2024   #20
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Don?t know anything about the specs, just a car I had filmed years ago.

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