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Old 06-05-2013   #21
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So do you think its just a quality control issue with the lifters? There are several articles on-line stating its a crap shoot when you buy them due to the # of suppliers
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Old 06-05-2013   #22
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Lots of the lifters are made in China these days. I can't get US made solid lifters for a 235 six cylinder motor any longer. And yes, they do break.
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Old 06-06-2013   #23
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So do you think its just a quality control issue with the lifters? There are several articles on-line stating its a crap shoot when you buy them due to the # of suppliers
Mine are Melling lifters and made by Eaton.

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Old 06-06-2013   #24
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Mine are Melling lifters and made by Eaton.

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Were they Mellings JB 2236?
How long had they been installed?
Is there anything that might have contributed to lifter failure other than poor quality lifter?

If so...what does Pete have to say about Mellings JB 2236 as they are as identical to stock lifters as you can get?
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Old 06-06-2013   #25
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Were they Mellings JB 2236?
How long had they been installed?
Is there anything that might have contributed to lifter failure other than poor quality lifter?

If so...what does Pete have to say about Mellings JB 2236 as they are as identical to stock lifters as you can get?
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we use the same lifters,Bob and Pete think that the cams moved,and that started the train wreck.

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Old 06-06-2013   #26
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we use the same lifters,Bob and Pete think that the cams moved,and that started the train wreck.

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Cams moved? You mean timing changed?
Such that you had valve contact with pistons?
I know it is close depending on head work, valve work, timing and Cams.....I had light (but you could see) eyebrows on all pistons on a set of heads not too long ago.

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Old 06-06-2013   #27
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Cams moved? You mean timing changed?
Such that you had valve contact with pistons?
I know it is close depending on head work, valve work, timing and Cams.....I had light (but you could see) eyebrows on all pistons on a set of heads not too long ago.
Yes that's what I mean (changed valve timing).

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Old 06-06-2013   #28
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I don't see how busted chains sheared 2 cam bolts. Agree w Bob, something stopped the cams. In any case, you'll have the car ready for the next 1/2 mile.
Maybe in October.
I think the cams started to walk to due to the shearing the rest is a train wreck of catastrophic events. Chain broke after all the bits and pieces ground the cams to a halt. Lifters shattered as they got in the way. Valves bent as all the pieces started to share the same space.

Very ugly Even when I lost my secondaries system the very small pieces bent 2valves.
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Old 01-01-2022   #29
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bgQiABT05tM

here's the broken parts out of my enigne.


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I hate to see broken LT5's

Al, I was trying to connect with you since I'm local but your inbox is full. Can you email me at newnode@mac.com
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