Short throw shifters and lift ring. - ZR-1 Net Registry Forums

efnfast · 09-15-2014

When you replace or modify your shifter, what do you do about a reverse lock out? Seems like it would be tough to go from 5th to reverse, but Bill B says it can be done up to 80 mph, once.

KILLSHOTS · 09-15-2014

Bill just installed one of his lift-ring shifters on my car a couple months ago. I was under the impression that the crash-through detent on the later models was a function of the transmission itself, not the shifter. So even if you could install a non lift-ring on an early car, you'd have no crash-through feature and that would be VERY dangerous indeed. Hope this helps.

zrss · 09-15-2014

I had Bill shorten the original shifter but maintain the reverse lock out. Best of both worlds, in my view.

efnfast · 09-15-2014

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Originally Posted by zrss

I had Bill shorten the original shifter but maintain the reverse lock out. Best of both worlds, in my view.

Short throw and short shifter, or just short shifter?

zrss · 09-15-2014

Just short shifter. I would expect that short throw and short shifter would require more effort to shift than I was looking for.

dredgeguy · 09-15-2014

Not to worry, you will get used to not having the lock out. I do not have one on my Hurst and while I am careful from 5 to 6, never needed to do a very fast shift in that area. Once I am in 3rd, am home free dusting somebody off.

efnfast · 09-16-2014

Somebody explain the "crash through" feature. Is it part of the shifter, or part of the tranny.

WVZR-1 · 09-16-2014

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Originally Posted by efnfast

Somebody explain the "crash through" feature. Is it part of the shifter, or part of the tranny.

The '95 crash-through has internal transmission/shifter differences.

There was actually even a TSB/Recall that effected the first few LT5 builds in '95 regarding "unable to shift into reverse".

The TSB/recall is referenced here at the CAC:

http://www.corvetteactioncenter.com/...ssion-592.html

5ABI VT · 09-16-2014

I have the Hurst on my 94 black tag (later style just built in Germany), and its quite easy to go to reverse. So easy in fact I would have to make sure I keep an eye if someone else were to drive the car and I even have to pay attn myself even shifting easily. Not too happy about it but 6th is just a fuel mileage gear anyways so like mentioned above.. its a slow easy shift once relaxing anyways.

mike100 · 09-16-2014

My C4 before my current ZR was a 95 coupe w a 6 speed. I liked the crash-thru so much that I had Bill B. convert mine during the rebuild of my black tag gearbox. I guess I was already accustomed to no lift ring. It does require a good effort to find reverse, it won't be flying in there under the shifter's own weight and inertia like the early style without the lock ring.

09-15-2014	#1
efnfast Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Dunbarton NH Posts: 7,555	Short throw shifters and lift ring. When you replace or modify your shifter, what do you do about a reverse lock out? Seems like it would be tough to go from 5th to reverse, but Bill B says it can be done up to 80 mph, once.

09-15-2014	#2
KILLSHOTS Join Date: Feb 2014 Location: AZ Posts: 857	Re: Short throw shifters and lift ring. Bill just installed one of his lift-ring shifters on my car a couple months ago. I was under the impression that the crash-through detent on the later models was a function of the transmission itself, not the shifter. So even if you could install a non lift-ring on an early car, you'd have no crash-through feature and that would be VERY dangerous indeed. Hope this helps.

09-15-2014	#3
zrss Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Montana Posts: 64	Re: Short throw shifters and lift ring. I had Bill shorten the original shifter but maintain the reverse lock out. Best of both worlds, in my view.

09-15-2014	#5
zrss Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Montana Posts: 64	Re: Short throw shifters and lift ring. Just short shifter. I would expect that short throw and short shifter would require more effort to shift than I was looking for.

09-15-2014	#6
dredgeguy Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Ellicott City, MD Posts: 1,720	Re: Short throw shifters and lift ring. Not to worry, you will get used to not having the lock out. I do not have one on my Hurst and while I am careful from 5 to 6, never needed to do a very fast shift in that area. Once I am in 3rd, am home free dusting somebody off. __________________ Charlie __________ Dredgeguy WAZOO Member 1992 Bright Red/Black ZR1 #246 Dana 4:10 gears Polished LT5 by Haibeck Polished Fikse FM5's with Michelin Pilot Sport 2 Stainless Works headers and cats with Corsa

09-16-2014	#7
efnfast Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Dunbarton NH Posts: 7,555	Re: Short throw shifters and lift ring. Somebody explain the "crash through" feature. Is it part of the shifter, or part of the tranny.

09-16-2014	#9
5ABI VT Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Toronto Posts: 780	Re: Short throw shifters and lift ring. I have the Hurst on my 94 black tag (later style just built in Germany), and its quite easy to go to reverse. So easy in fact I would have to make sure I keep an eye if someone else were to drive the car and I even have to pay attn myself even shifting easily. Not too happy about it but 6th is just a fuel mileage gear anyways so like mentioned above.. its a slow easy shift once relaxing anyways.

09-16-2014	#10
mike100 Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: San Marcos CA Posts: 1,786	Re: Short throw shifters and lift ring. My C4 before my current ZR was a 95 coupe w a 6 speed. I liked the crash-thru so much that I had Bill B. convert mine during the rebuild of my black tag gearbox. I guess I was already accustomed to no lift ring. It does require a good effort to find reverse, it won't be flying in there under the shifter's own weight and inertia like the early style without the lock ring.