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Kevin · 11-27-2013

i'm tempted to pitch up with my car as it sits and see what they do with it. A clean street driven stock 64,000 mile car.

John Boothby · 11-27-2013

John, only you can answer that question. My suggestion would be to change up the filters, and any small, cheap fix items. Take it to a chapter meet, and see how it does. A proper chapter meet is a no pressure deal, in which you get a lot of good info on your car, and learn something in the deal.[/QUOTE]

This is what I have been toying with. Might re-join the NCRS and try this in the spring.

Thanks for the info!! Have a good Thanksgiving to all!!

jrd1990zr1 · 12-21-2013

During NCRS judging the biggest point lose typically comes from things which don't operate correctly. Simple things like radio, CD, antenna, heater, mirrors, lights, etc.

Items like your battery if it is an AC Delco will be hit for a standard deduction. Tires likewise, have Goodyear tires on the car not another brand. Simple things like the air filter, oil filter etc are out there, the question is how much are those little point deductions going to hurt your overall score. You start out with around 4500 points and deductions are taken from there.

There are bonus points for driving to the event based on miles traveled. There are also bonus points for having an NCRS sticker on the car a battery disconnect and a fire estinguisher.

If you want to discuss specific issues, drop me a PM. I've had 2 different 1990s judged at chapter, regional and national NCRS events. Also have my judging sheets and the TM for the 1990 MY.

on3wego · 12-23-2013

My '95 has received both local and national Top Flights. It is a 97% plus car. If you have any other questions, I would be happy to answer

2nd94Z · 06-18-2014

What if the original wheels are chrome now ? everything else stock & original.

on3wego · 06-18-2014

Remember NCRS judging is on originality and condition. Just like the vehicle was delivered from the dealer. If you have chromed your wheels it would only be minor points knocked off. I might be wrong here but I believe it is 50% deduction if not original. Go to the NCRS website and look up there rules to be sure.

Good luck on your quest, it is worth it.

WVZR-1 · 06-20-2014

Last year at the NCRS National I was somewhat surprised at the interest shown towards the cars that were presented for the "Bow-Tie" award. I believe if I had a stock car with only reasonable maintenance I'd gather up enough used parts to get it to as close to delivered as possible and do the "Bow-tie" category. I believe the car can only be presented "once" regardless of ownership and the most difficult aspect of the classification is I believe it can only be done at the National. There are no passing locals etc. It could of course be certainly checked by locals before presenting it.

A very high point Bow-Tie car I'd think would be conversational.

Z06scentair · 06-21-2014

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Originally Posted by WVZR-1

Last year at the NCRS National I was somewhat surprised at the interest shown towards the cars that were presented for the "Bow-Tie" award. I believe if I had a stock car with only reasonable maintenance I'd gather up enough used parts to get it to as close to delivered as possible and do the "Bow-tie" category. I believe the car can only be presented "once" regardless of ownership and the most difficult aspect of the classification is I believe it can only be done at the National. There are no passing locals etc. It could of course be certainly checked by locals before presenting it.

A very high point Bow-Tie car I'd think would be conversational.

What I'm after.

TucsonZR1 · 07-03-2014

The Bowtie is called Crossflags for C4s and you must achieve a McClelland Award or a Hill Award first. 90 -92 is McClelland and 93 and up is a Hill.

Z06scentair · 07-03-2014

Quote:

Originally Posted by TucsonZR1

The Bowtie is called Crossflags for C4s and you must achieve a McClelland Award or a Hill Award first. 90 -92 is McClelland and 93 and up is a Hill.

Correct I will begin my process in September.

11-27-2013	#11
Kevin Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: pittsburgh Posts: 4,632	Re: NCRS judging question i'm tempted to pitch up with my car as it sits and see what they do with it. A clean street driven stock 64,000 mile car. __________________ It's not the car, it's the people - Doug Johnson 90 r/r "KEYS ON" nick named "T.L.B"

11-27-2013	#12
John Boothby Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Las Vegas, Nevada Posts: 777	Re: NCRS judging question John, only you can answer that question. My suggestion would be to change up the filters, and any small, cheap fix items. Take it to a chapter meet, and see how it does. A proper chapter meet is a no pressure deal, in which you get a lot of good info on your car, and learn something in the deal.[/QUOTE] This is what I have been toying with. Might re-join the NCRS and try this in the spring. Thanks for the info!! Have a good Thanksgiving to all!! __________________ JB 1990 #148 Red/Saddle Haibeck AYBKG5 Chip/RC Engineering/Flowmasters/K&N/Samco/Fuzzy Dice :cheers:

12-21-2013	#13
jrd1990zr1 Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Delanson, NY Posts: 914	Re: NCRS judging question During NCRS judging the biggest point lose typically comes from things which don't operate correctly. Simple things like radio, CD, antenna, heater, mirrors, lights, etc. Items like your battery if it is an AC Delco will be hit for a standard deduction. Tires likewise, have Goodyear tires on the car not another brand. Simple things like the air filter, oil filter etc are out there, the question is how much are those little point deductions going to hurt your overall score. You start out with around 4500 points and deductions are taken from there. There are bonus points for driving to the event based on miles traveled. There are also bonus points for having an NCRS sticker on the car a battery disconnect and a fire estinguisher. If you want to discuss specific issues, drop me a PM. I've had 2 different 1990s judged at chapter, regional and national NCRS events. Also have my judging sheets and the TM for the 1990 MY. __________________ 1968 convertible Lemans Blue, 1986 coupe Medium Blue NCRS Top Flight (sold), 1990 ZR1 #2529 Red NCRS Regional and National Top Flight (sold), 1990 ZR1 #2124 Charcoal Metallic NCRS Top Flight 2010 & 2018, 2003 Anniversary Red Convertible (sold)

12-23-2013	#14
on3wego Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Farmington Hills, MI Posts: 32	Re: NCRS judging question My '95 has received both local and national Top Flights. It is a 97% plus car. If you have any other questions, I would be happy to answer __________________ Gary Cline '95 Blk/Tan #208 NCRS "Top Flight"

06-18-2014	#15
2nd94Z Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Little Rock, Arkansas Posts: 35	Re: NCRS judging question What if the original wheels are chrome now ? everything else stock & original. __________________ 2nd94Z LT-5 63SWC

06-18-2014	#16
on3wego Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Farmington Hills, MI Posts: 32	Re: NCRS judging question Remember NCRS judging is on originality and condition. Just like the vehicle was delivered from the dealer. If you have chromed your wheels it would only be minor points knocked off. I might be wrong here but I believe it is 50% deduction if not original. Go to the NCRS website and look up there rules to be sure. Good luck on your quest, it is worth it. __________________ Gary Cline '95 Blk/Tan #208 NCRS "Top Flight"

06-20-2014	#17
WVZR-1 Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 1,890	Re: NCRS judging question Last year at the NCRS National I was somewhat surprised at the interest shown towards the cars that were presented for the "Bow-Tie" award. I believe if I had a stock car with only reasonable maintenance I'd gather up enough used parts to get it to as close to delivered as possible and do the "Bow-tie" category. I believe the car can only be presented "once" regardless of ownership and the most difficult aspect of the classification is I believe it can only be done at the National. There are no passing locals etc. It could of course be certainly checked by locals before presenting it. A very high point Bow-Tie car I'd think would be conversational.

07-03-2014	#19
TucsonZR1 Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Tucson Posts: 32	Re: NCRS judging question The Bowtie is called Crossflags for C4s and you must achieve a McClelland Award or a Hill Award first. 90 -92 is McClelland and 93 and up is a Hill.