11-03-2012 | #1 |
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OK...So what is the "FBI" & what is the FBI 500????
I don't know the answer, but I'm sure it's going be a trip!
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11-03-2012 | #2 |
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Re: OK...So what is the "FBI" & what is the FBI 500????
FBI is just a reference to the large # of Zs and guys that do ZR-1 mods in the Chicago Area/IL.....Fast Boys of Illinois.....FBI..
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11-04-2012 | #3 |
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Re: OK...So what is the "FBI" & what is the FBI 500????
FBI 500 is a reference to their engine performance modifications (500HP) I beleive the number is really a bit higher The FBI is always looking to push the LT5 to even great heights of performance. A lot of R&D comes out of their garages. They are a great asset to our community.
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11-04-2012 | #4 |
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Re: OK...So what is the "FBI" & what is the FBI 500????
So, Are the FBI 500 mods secret????? I was reading around here & someone alluded to some porting "nuances", is this part of it?
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Re: OK...So what is the "FBI" & what is the FBI 500????
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But, it doesn't end there. Research and a healthy amount of experimentation guided by substantial practical expertise coming from certain FBI individuals having decades of racing - all blended together in a tight knit group that has been pushing the envelope of the LT5 for over a decade now. Is there room for improvement to "the package?" Yes, and the process continues. For example, Marc Haibeck's recent announcement that his 500 package, due to some recently prooved nuances of his porting, is now pegged at 510 hp, and still produced from a stock-bottom 350 LT5 using stock cams! Is there something that distinguishes an FBI 500 package from another? I think in a general sense - most definately! In a nut-shell, it would be "drivability" is one thing that stands out. In other words, the FBI built and tuned motors not only produce the power, but also defy the loss of low and mid-range performance that is often spoken of when it comes to porting (especially) mods. And why is that? Part of the answer comes from the fact the cams can be independantly timed; much effort has been expended on refining the cam timing issue - according to what produces not only hp gains, but retains low and mid range torque as well. And, part of the answer is knowing where to port, and where to stop (which extends to cam profiles, etc, as well.) Are the paterns developed or is the technology vastly different from what others might develop? Perhaps not. (There is even a CNC program off of Pete's heads that is avaliable from Pete.) But, the LT5 is NOT an easy or cheap motor for the individual to experiment with. And, since the cost in time and money to develop the supurb package aka "FBI 500" package was largely at their own expense, you could hardly fault a Marc or Pete or Bob or Al or Kevin or Lee for holding some of their hard - won "nuances" to their collective chests. So, the answer to the "nuance" question is yes! The devil is in the details Wanna talk about big inch FBI LT5s?? There inlies some truly inovative work going far beyond what some of the big names accomplished in the early days. P.
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11-04-2012 | #6 |
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Re: OK...So what is the "FBI" & what is the FBI 500????
The 350ci/500 would not be possible today if it wasn't for the FBI.
Today most tuners offer/have a 350ci/500 package. Some of the info was given away some was stolen this is the reason for secrecy. Before this one had to spend a lot of money to get 500hp package and go with a bigger motor (368ci) Today a 368 is not worth, money vs gains. A lot of money and time went into the research. This was very risky research it would've been hi cost monentary wise if it didn't work since LT5 parts are very pricey. Pete
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Re: OK...So what is the "FBI" & what is the FBI 500????
Well, my hat's certainly off to the FBI gang. Pete, in particular, since he provided me with 500+ horses and the most fun Corvette that I've ever owned, and I've owned over forty of them. And I've had the pleasure of driving them all, from 6 clyinder 53's to big blocks. My ZR-1 is the best of any of them.
Thanks, Pete!...and everyone else in FBI land!
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Re: OK...So what is the "FBI" & what is the FBI 500????
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Well said!
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Re: OK...So what is the "FBI" & what is the FBI 500????
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Amen, brother! I can also attest to Pete's work. I bought Michael Christians' '94 Blue Beast with the FBI "500 Package" (which, BTW, ended up being well over 500 HP) and it is scary as hell when you leave your foot in it yet as tame as a Camry when tooling around town. I wish "Freak of Nature" could fit on a license plate! Hopefully, I can meet you guys at Carlisle or BG next year. David Last edited by Fully Vetted; 11-05-2012 at 08:38 AM. Reason: Spelin' |
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Re: OK...So what is the "FBI" & what is the FBI 500????
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