Ron Fellows sucks as a driver

[MikeGolf]

I'm a NASCAR fan and prejudice. But you put Fellows on a track with Driver's that really want to win and it aren't worried about the "TEAM" car he get's his butt kicked. And a road course which he specializes and teaches on. From '95 to '10 as a "ringer" driver his average finish is 25.8. I know these cars don't have relief drivers, all the push buttons on the steering wheel, and luxcuries that he is used to and are heavy. And the other drivers may not know of his reputation.
I have never heard of any of the drivers that he race with, I don't follow them. The only great driver I have ever know they had was Dale Earnhardt. Even Boris Said has won a race in NASCAR.
Can he out drive me, yes. But for some money I would do some rubbing. He has done a great deal to advance and promote Corvettes that I will give him, but as a driver in Corvettes it has been with co-drivers. But Hall of Fame as a driver? I'll get off my soap box now.



And he is Canadian. (Sorry)

[Kevin]

24 Hours of Le Mans Record for Mr. Fellows
Year Finish Class Car Co-drivers
2000 4th GTS Corvette C5-R Kneifel, Bell
2001 1st GTS Corvette C5-R O'Connell, Pruett
2002 1st GTS Corvette C5-R O'Connell, Gavin
2003 3rd GTS Corvette C5-R O'Connell, Freon
2004 2nd GTS Corvette C5-R O'Connell, Papis
2005 2nd GT1 Corvette C6.R O'Connell, Papis
2006 7th GT1 Corvette C6.R O'Connell, Papis
2007 2nd GT1 Corvette C6.R O'Connell, Magnussen

seems pretty damn good to me

http://www.corvetteracing.com/driver...nfellows.shtml

[MikeGolf]

without co-drivers Sh*#%y

http://www.nascar.com/drivers/dps/rf...cup/index.html

[Kevin]

don't care about nascar.

[Aurora40]

Originally Posted by Kevin

24 Hours of Le Mans Record
Year Finish Class Car Co-drivers
2000 4th GTS Corvette C5-R Kneifel, Bell
2001 1st GTS Corvette C5-R O'Connell, Pruett
2002 1st GTS Corvette C5-R O'Connell, Gavin
2003 3rd GTS Corvette C5-R O'Connell, Freon
2004 2nd GTS Corvette C5-R O'Connell, Papis
2005 2nd GT1 Corvette C6.R O'Connell, Papis
2006 7th GT1 Corvette C6.R O'Connell, Papis
2007 2nd GT1 Corvette C6.R O'Connell, Magnussen

seems pretty damn good to me

That seems to show that Johnny O'Connell is a great driver, don't see Fellows on that list at all?

On the original topic, I don't know that his finishes in a series where he's an occasional "hired gun" really speak to his driving ability. And I sure wouldn't dismiss endurance driving as a litmus test simply because it involves teammates.

I will say, when Corvette announced a "Ron Fellows" edition Z06, that it seemed fairly inappropriate to me. How many greats have there been in Corvette history? Lots. How many had a factory edition named after them? None. Fellows was not far and away the best thing ever to happen to Corvette, thus warranting that distinction.

[Kevin]

Originally Posted by Aurora40

That seems to show that Johnny O'Connell is a great driver, don't see Fellows on that list at all?

On the original topic, I don't know that his finishes in a series where he's an occasional "hired gun" really speak to his driving ability. And I sure wouldn't dismiss endurance driving as a litmus test simply because it involves teammates.

I will say, when Corvette announced a "Ron Fellows" edition Z06, that it seemed fairly inappropriate to me. How many greats have there been in Corvette history? Lots. How many had a factory edition named after them? None. Fellows was not far and away the best thing ever to happen to Corvette, thus warranting that distinction.

the list was Mr. Fellows' lemans wins and his co drivers taken from the corvette racing page

[Aurora40]

Originally Posted by MikeGolf

But Hall of Fame as a driver? I'll get off my soap box now.

I'll get on mine. If you look at the bar that has been set as an inductee, I think Ron clearly exceeds it.

Some of the "Hall of Fame" folks that I find ridiculous are the ones who never did anything to improve the Corvette. They were simply involved with founding the museum:

http://www.corvettemuseum.com/librar...ttaglini.shtml

http://www.corvettemuseum.com/librar...f/bowlin.shtml

http://www.corvettemuseum.com/librar...rookmyer.shtml

http://www.corvettemuseum.com/librar...hof/gale.shtml

http://www.corvettemuseum.com/librar...mcmanmon.shtml

Has Ron Fellows done more to improve Corvette than those guys? I'd say hell yes. He's been instrumental in several LeMans wins, he's been a very down-to-earth face of Corvette Racing, and he's helped establish credibility for Corvette as a performance car in every meaning of the word.

Now, don't get me wrong. It's great these guys went above and beyond to get the museum going. But I don't think that is museum-worthy, almost by definition.

What other HOF's are like that? Does the pro football hall of fame include the guy who secured the museum land grant?? Next to Babe Ruth's jersey in Cooperstown, is there a blazer and khaki pants hanging of the guy who filed for 501(c)(3) tax-deductible status for the museum?? Give me a break...

[VetteMed]

don't we have an off topic section for stuff that isn't ZR-1 related?

[Aurora40]

Originally Posted by Kevin

the list was Mr. Fellows' lemans wins and his co drivers taken from the corvette racing page

Ok, gotcha, it wasn't clear what I was looking at.

[MikeGolf]

Originally Posted by VetteMed

don't we have an off topic section for stuff that isn't ZR-1 related?

sorry my mistake