05-06-2015 | #1 |
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ZR-1 Center of Gravity
Don't have time to install my equalizer hitch on the trailer, so.......
Would like to know what others may have determined where the center of gravity is, relative to the wheelbase. I am picking up a new open deck trailer tomorrow morning & would like to know just where I should park the Zee, relative to the trailer axles. The trailer manufacturer should be able to tell me how much weight is on the hitch with the trailer empty. I would like to tow with about 4~500 pounds on the ball. Actual data appreciated.
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05-06-2015 | #2 |
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Re: ZR-1 Center of Gravity
Jerry are you bringing your Zee to BG? I am trailering the Atomic-Z on an open deck trailer and I am interested in the response you get.
I am looking forward to seeing you there!
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05-06-2015 | #3 |
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Re: ZR-1 Center of Gravity
Hi Dennis,
Yes I am. Maybe we can do another Aerobody Group shot. Have a safe trip.
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Re: ZR-1 Center of Gravity
Jerry/Measure the distance to the ground,both prior to and after loading/If you want 400 lb tongue weight,load the rear of truck with 400 lbs to first establish loaded height/unless you have airbag overloads,it will squat/I have sometimes loaded backwards with my 5th wheel setup,when I am too heavy in front,with motors etc,in front of the car/need to have a balance on trailer axles/If too much weight on rear of trailer,you will have the tail wagging the dog//Drive safe/see you there
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Re: ZR-1 Center of Gravity
Yea, I have auto-leveling, Cadillac EXT. I used to tow with my enclosed trailer & had it set up pretty good. New trailer, starting over. Looking for some numbers. Thanks for your info. Over the years I have overloaded trailers & learned the lessons you pointed out. Couldn't agree more with "never load tail heavy". Thanks for the info!
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Re: ZR-1 Center of Gravity
According to a few Google hits, the C4 Corvette was advertised as 51%F/49%R.
If true, the center of gravity would be an inch or so forward from the midpoint between the tires. You can measure tongue weight with a bathroom scale even if it can't go up to 400 lb. https://www.etrailer.com/faq-how-to-...ue-weight.aspx
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05-07-2015 | #7 |
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Re: ZR-1 Center of Gravity
Use the weights on the **certification label and a couple quick dimensions you can do and use this BendPak formula to do your car. Very straight forward and quite simple. There are Excel programs also but they get very difficult to manipulate because they want to calculate roll centers etc.
* Callaway/Lingenfelter I would think supplied/applied a corrected certification label to their cars. http://www.bendpak.com/support/balancing-safety/ There's a .pdf download link included there also. See how close your tape measure does compared to these: '95 Dimensions.png I would think that if the trailer sales outfit doesn't have a tongue weight scale you can borrow you could certainly gather one locally at a hitch installer to rent. Sherline would be the most likely product you would find. They also have a "load balance" worksheet. Tongue weight "percentage" is generally considered the more important number. A friend does his always using their worksheet. http://www.sherline.com/lmwkshet.htm Maybe more importantly - did you escape the weather yesterday/last evening? Last edited by WVZR-1; 05-07-2015 at 09:43 AM. |
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Re: ZR-1 Center of Gravity
I have and frequently haul cars on a 22 ft. dove tail trailer to car sales. A lot depends on how much empty trailer tongue weight and where the axles are placed on the trailer. I have about 300 pounds of tongue weight and pull a car forward on the trailer until i can see the rear of the tow vehicle squat about 3 inches. This is on an 08 GMC 4x4.
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05-07-2015 | #9 |
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Re: ZR-1 Center of Gravity
Lots of good info here that will be of use to both of us (Dennis too). Thank you all.
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05-07-2015 | #10 |
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Re: ZR-1 Center of Gravity
Yes, good to know info. Hope the Archivist picks it up!
FWIW, the few times I've needed to haul a ZR-1, I found the tandem axial U - Haul car hauler tows like a dream. But, the trailer brakes are "pot luck" at best.
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