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Couldn't get the 94 in gear......
On the weekends I shift the 94 and the 82 in the garage, so it is easier to get into the 94 and go. We went out on Sunday, and I have noticed the past two times, that the trans is hard to shift when cold, but felt better as the Z warmed-up. So not thinking to much about it (yea right!!!) I go to move the Vettes on Monday to get them in their spots for the week, and I can't get the 94 into gear, any gear...... So I stayed relaxed and finally it went into 2nd gear. Since my garage floor is at a very slight slope, it was enough to move up a few feet and then let it roll back until I got it over on the other side of the garage. That was close....
So I lift the hood, move the ECM and check the Clutch cylinder and besides what's in there being very dark, the fluid was very low. So I add some fluid and pump the clutch pedal about 15 times, and with the engine off, it now is going into gear easier than before. Did a search on the forum and learned alot about the system. Need to check for leaks, possibly change out the fluid and see if there is a leak, or just remove and send it out for a rebuild from one of the vendors mentioned in the thread that I was reading. Also doesn't seem hard to remove or install. This may be the next job for the Z......
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Re: Couldm't get the 94 in gear......
Tom,
I'd make sure the clutch fluid is or was changed... Also change out the transmission fluid too, either one could cause the symptoms. Do you have a list of maintenance records? David |
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Re: Couldm't get the 94 in gear......
Actually the '90 self-bleeds, and when you pump the clutch, it will bleed out the reservoir. In that respect, it's actually one of the easiest clutches I've ever bled. That said, my slave bit the bullet - even after cleaning out the black sludge, it didn't last a day before I saw drips and the pedal flopped to the floor.
I just got a rebuilt unit from Jim @ Power Torque Systems, and I'll be installing it tomorrow. He recommended priming the slave with fluid prior to installation, making bleeding much quicker. As long as I can get past the CAGS, it shouldn't be too tough. Interesting factoid, Jim told me the 89-90 slaves used a breakaway bleeder valve, intentionally torqued off at the factory - that's what is under that rubber cap. Really Chevy? I swear I'm finding all sorts of things that confirm they never intended these cars to be serviced.
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I don't see that as condescending, he is highlighting a fact isn't he? Is Cliff attacking you? Absolutely not. I think you are reading it wrong... Cliff even deleted the posts because you were upset about it. David |
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Re: Couldm't get the 94 in gear......
Cliff, what were your exact symptoms when your slave failed? My Challenge car is ailing in that respect, so I'd just like to compare notes.
Those that have been around here a while know that this "style" is just your way of communicating. Not condescending at all....at least not to me because I understand the flavor in which it is meant and conveyed. You are always perceived by myself as helpful. I also applaud Dynomite for deleting the posts in question. He did so for everyone's benefit. This is a perfect example of how we all strive to respect each other and exchange information. 4Cam...I'm sincerely not criticizing anyone who takes it differently at all, either. Just listing my understanding of the bold red "style'". Thanks
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Re: Couldm't get the 94 in gear......
let's play nice everyone.
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Re: Couldm't get the 94 in gear......
Mark your missreading this. Cliff is just trying to highlight a solution. Cliff is a very nice and helpful guy
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Re: Couldm't get the 94 in gear......
Dave (WV ZR-) is a wealth of knowledge for part numbers and this type of stuff. Always enjoy reading when he contributes these things. Thanks!!!!
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Re: Couldm't get the 94 in gear......
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No records as of yet, got in contack with another previous owner, so we will see where that goes..... Tom
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