The C4 Gathering 2018

[Andy]

I agree with the above comments and could have sworn I saw a video recorder being used at the 2015 Gathering. Beyond that, what "vette guy" actually says is "released" - that does not mean video was not made, just could not be posted to places like youtube.

Andy

[JThomas]

As a former board member of the NCM, 2010-2014, I thought the museum was recording most of the seminars that occur at the museum, but maybe my recollection is at the bigger events like the Birthday Bash and the Labor/Anniversary events.

I do know that when I was a board member, the museum had a plan to document the stories of some of the legendary developers of the Corvette for prosperity, which included a lot of people affiliated with the ZR-1. Since leaving the board, I haven't kept up with the status of this documentation, but if someone wants to compile a list of ZR-1 specific legends, I don't have a problem making contact with the museum to determine if they have reached out to those folks or not.

[XfireZ51]

Joe,

My recollection is that the NCM retains rights to presentations done on NCM premises and could not be distributed without their permission.

[G-Sting]

First off, I appreciate the hard work folks on the ZR-1 Net Registry board, like Mark (Vette Guy), and many others voluntarily do... as well as those who've volunteered for work at the NCM. I'm sure it requires a significant amount of work to make excellent events like Gatherings and Mountain Runs happen.

That said, I'm totally with those who see the incredible value - both historically and practically - of recording videos of those who speak at the ZR-1 Gatherings and other venues. However, recording them does not go far enough. It is in the public access to them that the true value can be realized. I will list an example of one I am familiar with.

The Experimental Aircraft Association (EAA) not only has an superb museum, and a huge annual gathering (https://www.eaa.org/en/airventure), but has an excellent video documentation of those who've been a part of aviation history. It's called "Timeless Voices of Aviation." Many, of course, are veterans who flew in our wars. It is not only highly inspirational as to those who have gone before us to preserve our freedoms, but one can learn from the perseverance, challenges, teamwork and character that went into accomplishing the amazing things they did.

If interested, here is the website: https://www.eaa.org/en/eaa-museum/mu...-video-diaries. Click on "Watch Now" and, if desired do a Search (upper right) for a name or an aircraft (e.g. "P-51"), and enjoy.

From what others are saying, it sounds like this is much like the type of historical documentation that's needed. AND WITH PUBLIC ACCESS on the Web. Why does there appear to be such a hesitancy by the NCM to do this? It could only tremendously HELP their cause by generating the excitement and historical appreciation for the Corvette brand and it's Museum, much less our beloved ZR-1.

Furthermore, with video access of speakers who've been a part of Corvette/ZR-1 history, one can also learn from the perseverance, challenges, teamwork and character that went into accomplishing the amazing things they did.

Cheers,
"G"

[Paul Workman]

Originally Posted by zr1assassin

Lt5 & ls7......check, got both😉😁😁

MAN AFTER MY HEART!!!

[Bob Eyres]

I don't really know what plans the NCM has for acquiring and preserving historical material pertaining to the Corvette. There is certainly plenty of it around on YouTube. It would be a great service to all of us for the NCM to download, and organize, what's already available for the use of the hobby.

My current concern is, what's going to happen this week? You've got a number of guys that participated in the "Black Widow" effort in the house. It would be smart to take advantage of the opportunity to get that presentation on video.
Modern HD home video cameras are very good. You could even use an iPhone. Just do it.
If anyone is willing to try, contact me, and I will give you some tips to make it easier. I've shot in that venue before.
As far as permissions go, I don't think there would be a problem with the NCM, unless they are already going to record it. If they aren't, as long as you don't disrupt or delay the program. I wouldn't even bring it up.
Of course, you need to talk to the speakers to make sure it's ok with them. But these guys would probably be pleased, and proud, to get this material into the archives.
Good Luck, I wish I was there.

BTW, Anything you shoot is your property, and you need no permissions to govern it's use, unless you want to sell it. But this is a non profit effort.

[Paul Workman]

Originally Posted by tpepmeie

I could swear I read a post in this thread by Paul Workman. Where'd it go?

PS I agree with the prior comments about preserving these historical presentations.

You did see one, Todd. But, my momma said: "Never write a letter when your angry!" And, I was (still am...just simmering now).

After cooling off a tad (and talking this issue over with other other rational heads) a couple legit things came to light which I hadn't considered.

For example, presentations by special guests (such as yourself, Todd, and other VIP insiders too) delivered to attendees in the NCM (theater) sometimes contain "trade secrets": a juicy perk or two for the attendees perhaps, but guests speakers may NOT want certain things to end up on YouTube or the like. I get that. But, fear NOT! The rest of the info will be preserved and distributed, e.g., HOTB, for just one, AND links to source presenters' web sites like Marc Haibeck's, etc.


Anyway...there are some other unrelated busine$$ 'kinks' with the C4 gatherings in general - that have been brewing for a year or more that need to be worked out...e.g., such as ideas for attracting more of the general C4 participants.

"KEEP THE LEGEND ALIVE" is our moto and concern. The NCM is a business for profit. Somehow the two parties can work together to find ways that are mutually beneficial to BOTH concerns. (In fact, some of those formative discussions w/ the NCM are planned to take place this week during the Gathering.) Some changes and compromises would not be unexpected. But, the goal is to negotiate an business arrangement that promotes the C4, the ZR-1 and Grand Sport Registries' concerns.

Come to the ZR-1 Registry's general meeting (check the agenda for time and place when you arrive). Your ideas on these (or any other) topics are welcome!

Paul Workman
Secretary, ZR-1 Net Registry

[JThomas]

Okay, it's been three days now of the Gathering, plus the Mountain Run event and not one picture or story posted? Are you guys having that much fun that you can't share a single picture/comment with those of us that couldn't make it this year?

[Mr Blue]

Can’t speak for everyone, but yes I haven’t stopped to post pictures. Lots o folks taking them, so I’m sure they will post them in due time. It has just been a busy and fun week

[JThomas]

Glad you guys and gals are having a good time!