Michelin PS2 335/35/17 back in production

[RussMcB]

Originally Posted by BigJohn

If you have your Goodyears cut they stick quite well!!!

I see the smiley face so I'm sure this was posted in jest. I know I wouldn't shave any expensive Goodyears when there are already great DOT street/racing tires already available (like the Nitto NT05's). :-)

BTW, I ran full tread Goodyears at the NCM track and was pretty impressed with their stick. I was able to go plenty fast enough and have a blast. Admittedly, I'd choose different tires if lap times were important.

[batchman]

Originally Posted by RussMcB

I see the smiley face so I'm sure this was posted in jest. I know I wouldn't shave any expensive Goodyears when there are already great DOT street/racing tires already available (like the Nitto NT05's). :-)

Shaving tread to 1/2 depth has been common practice for some tires in the more serious autocross realm for decades. Reduces tread squirm and resulting heat buildup. Also cures the "first 200 miles" wearing off the mold release compounds.

The modern "street tire" classes are using Bridgestone RE71R and Goodrich Rival S almost exclusively these days though, and neither of those seems to need shaving, probably due to the very limited void area.

Cheers,
- Jeff
(I don't get here much lately!)

[RussMcB]

Yeah, that was kind of my point. Hard to justify shaving away thousands of miles off expensive Goodyears when "pre-shaved" tires are already available (and probably better/faster than shaved Goodyears).

Do people still shave tires? I know it was common in past decades, but I haven't heard of anyone doing it in the past few years.

[batchman]

I seem to recall the Toyo R1R was better shaved, it is still favored in some sizes where the others aren't available. It's now been long enough since I used street rubber that I forget LOL!

Best,
- Jeff

[Mystic ZR-1]

Jeff, where ya been?

How about Toyo R888s
Probably stick great in the dry, not so good in
the wet? And treadwear, probably not too good?
They come in ZR-1 sizes and the $ isn't too bad.
All around, the Goodyears are probably the answer...
Wet, treadwear, noise, looks, value for the $, availability etc.

[batchman]

Originally Posted by Mystic ZR-1

Jeff, where ya been?

How about Toyo R888s
Probably stick great in the dry, not so good in
the wet? And treadwear, probably not too good?
They come in ZR-1 sizes and the $ isn't too bad.
All around, the Goodyears are probably the answer...
Wet, treadwear, noise, looks, value for the $, availability etc.

Hey! Glad I can get back here sometimes.

Been busy racing my friends' sawzalled Mustang while I get the Z back together. If I could only figure out how to keep these Penskes compressed without letting the nitrogen out...

The R888 is a good sticky tire, and OK in the wet if I recall correctly. Wet meaning "shiny" as opposed to standing water on the highway, that is.

Had a "fun" time at the Solo Nationals in the CP Fox body. Full on rain on the 2nd day (ie the standing water above) on slicks was pretty much a pontoon boat thing. Steering wheel did absolutely nothing (not a good feeling!) unless I was braking at the same time. Glad to say I didn't kill any course workers, but my results look like I cared too much about that .

Best,
- Jeff

[Bob Eyres]

What kind of wear do you get out of these Michelins?
The Michelins I have on other cars get amazing long tread life, so much so that I've had to change them out because of age long before they wear out.
The Pilot Sports must be a much softer compound to be "sticky".

I'd love to get that 335 size for the rear, but not at twice the price of my 315 Toyo R888's.
If Toyo made that tire in the 335 size, there would be no need for Drag Radials

[Hog]

The 335/35/17 is a wide assed combo on the 17x13" Viper wheels.
Whats the fitment like on the 17x11" ZR-1 rims? Do they wear outr the centers of the tread?


Too bad the Vredersteins are no more.


The BFG drag radial was a nice sticky tire, including the 315/35/17.

[Bob Eyres]

Originally Posted by Hog

The 335/35/17 is a wide assed combo on the 17x13" Viper wheels.
Whats the fitment like on the 17x11" ZR-1 rims? Do they wear outr the centers of the tread?

Too bad the Vredersteins are no more.

The BFG drag radial was a nice sticky tire, including the 315/35/17.

For correct fitment you need to widen the rims on the inside 1", to 12'.
There's a wheel shop in Texas that used to do it, for a reasonable price. Anybody remember where?

When rims are widened the tires look noticeably wider, have flat footprint, and look very badass. 335's on an 11" wide rim curl up slightly on the edges and that sort of defeats the purpose. I'm not sure the footprint is even increased, might be. Anybody have 335's on the rear?

[Bob Eyres]

[QUOTE=Hog;The BFG drag radial was a nice sticky tire, including the 315/35/17.[/QUOTE]

I've had them, and they really hook.

FYI, back in the day, I saw John Lingenfelter put BFG-DR 255x50x16" tires on a 415/LT5. They hooked up for some 60ft. times in the 1.50's even though they were not as wide as the 315's. At low pressure, the larger sidewall made a bigger, (longer), footprint = better launch.