Oil and ZDDP

[Scrrem]

I have been reading all these posts on oil over the past few months and decided to buy a case of Amsoil and give it a try. It's sitting in the garage, I just need to get time to get the oil changed. Since I am a motorcycle rider too, Amsoil has been toted for years in air cooled motors, so I figured, it can't hurt to run it in the Z!
Rich

[secondchance]

Originally Posted by Scrrem

I have been reading all these posts on oil over the past few months and decided to buy a case of Amsoil and give it a try. It's sitting in the garage, I just need to get time to get the oil changed. Since I am a motorcycle rider too, Amsoil has been toted for years in air cooled motors, so I figured, it can't hurt to run it in the Z!
Rich

That is the right way to go it seems. It's just too much pain in the butt for me.
Also, I must have been brainwashed by Mobil marketing...
I just like the convenience of being able to find a quart whenever I need it - like on a middle of a interstate somewhere.
I think I will stay w/ Mobil 1, 5W30 and add 2oz of this magic stuff. Way I see it, at worst it won't do anything (only 2 oz!) and at least help me put my mind at ease.

[xlr8nflorida]

This makes for interesting reading and supports that when you put additives into the oil, you just don't know exactly what you are getting. Although, testing of your oil of course is a good idea.

http://www.corvetteactioncenter.com/...t-engines.html

I'm going to go with Mobil 1 10-30 High Mileage and call it a day.

[bdw18_123]

Originally Posted by xlr8nflorida

This makes for interesting reading and supports that when you put additives into the oil, you just don't know exactly what you are getting. Although, testing of your oil of course is a good idea.

http://www.corvetteactioncenter.com/...t-engines.html

I'm going to go with Mobil 1 10-30 High Mileage and call it a day.

That's what I'm gonna do too.

[secondchance]

Originally Posted by xlr8nflorida

This makes for interesting reading and supports that when you put additives into the oil, you just don't know exactly what you are getting. Although, testing of your oil of course is a good idea.

http://www.corvetteactioncenter.com/...t-engines.html

I'm going to go with Mobil 1 10-30 High Mileage and call it a day.

You should be fine.
Nonetheless, this was a very interesting education for me.
Live and learn...

[PhillipsLT5]

Just put in the AmsOil and be done with it unless you know more than Marc

[xlr8nflorida]

Originally Posted by PhillipsLT5

Just put in the AmsOil and be done with it unless you know more than Marc

Nobody claimed to know more then Marc which is why I emailed him.
That being said if you read Marc's article he is not pushing Amsoil hard, he just wants an oil that meets the specifications.

I read all the articles and take away my own opinions. For example in Hib's article he mentions the Rotella. My Dad runs engines that are several hundred thousand a piece and he uses Rotella and Blackwater. He has never lost an engine in several years of heavy commercial use. At the same time, he is using the Diesel Rotella which is different that Gas Rotella. My experience has been Mobil 1. I've run it in 3 corvettes, all well over 100,000 miles. My compression was incredible, the engine was clean as a whistle and my engines ran like raped ape. Therefore I'm a big fan of Mobil 1. They are factory fill and they support racing in a big way. I don't feel comfortable when I read all the Amsoil tests because quite frankly most are not truly independent tests. For example Royal Purple, people used to swear by that oil as well and now there are many people who say the Royal Purple is nothing special.

Why does Amsoil basically use a MLM approach to selling? If its that good people will pay right? Why is it not readily available?

I have no bones to pick just passing out information as I obtain it, just like alot of other individuals in this thread. I think everybody has probably learned a thing or two - I know I have.

In my case, my ZR-1 sees limited mileage, I could probably put walmart oil in it and it would make no difference. I provided the information for more of the drivers because quite frankly I think you could use regular 10W-30 and get 100k no problem - yeah you might have some lifter wear but who here is driving their car that much?

Now for any of you Mobil 1 Fans out there, I thought I would pass this information along to you:

Advance Auto Parts

Mobil 1 5 quarts and Mobil 1 filter for $29

ZR-1 oil change for $60 with 1 extra filter and 1 extra quart on your shelf

Priceless

[secondchance]

Originally Posted by xlr8nflorida

Nobody claimed to know more then Marc which is why I emailed him.
That being said if you read Marc's article he is not pushing Amsoil hard, he just wants an oil that meets the specifications.

I read all the articles and take away my own opinions. For example in Hib's article he mentions the Rotella. My Dad runs engines that are several hundred thousand a piece and he uses Rotella and Blackwater. He has never lost an engine in several years of heavy commercial use. At the same time, he is using the Diesel Rotella which is different that Gas Rotella. My experience has been Mobil 1. I've run it in 3 corvettes, all well over 100,000 miles. My compression was incredible, the engine was clean as a whistle and my engines ran like raped ape. Therefore I'm a big fan of Mobil 1. They are factory fill and they support racing in a big way. I don't feel comfortable when I read all the Amsoil tests because quite frankly most are not truly independent tests. For example Royal Purple, people used to swear by that oil as well and now there are many people who say the Royal Purple is nothing special.

Why does Amsoil basically use a MLM approach to selling? If its that good people will pay right? Why is it not readily available?

I have no bones to pick just passing out information as I obtain it, just like alot of other individuals in this thread. I think everybody has probably learned a thing or two - I know I have.

In my case, my ZR-1 sees limited mileage, I could probably put walmart oil in it and it would make no difference. I provided the information for more of the drivers because quite frankly I think you could use regular 10W-30 and get 100k no problem - yeah you might have some lifter wear but who here is driving their car that much?

Now for any of you Mobil 1 Fans out there, I thought I would pass this information along to you:

Advance Auto Parts

Mobil 1 5 quarts and Mobil 1 filter for $29

ZR-1 oil change for $60 with 1 extra filter and 1 extra quart on your shelf

Priceless

I agree! Subject such as this we can toss around what we dig up, discuss, learn from each other. But at the end of the day we decide for ourselves based on what we have learned.
Without running a fleet of LT5s up to 100,000 miles or more on various brands taking sample readings every 1000 miles or so, perhaps even followed by a tear down, there is no way to truly find out which brand/weight is superior.
My preference is to understand the subject best I can under the circumstance.

Thanks for the heads up on Advanced Auto Parts deal. Does Mobil 1 still make the oil filter for LT5? I thought they discontinued.

[xlr8nflorida]

Originally Posted by secondchance

I agree! Subject such as this we can toss around what we dig up, discuss, learn from each other. But at the end of the day we decide for ourselves based on what we have learned.
Without running a fleet of LT5s up to 100,000 miles or more on various brands taking sample readings every 1000 miles or so, perhaps even followed by a tear down, there is no way to truly find out which brand/weight is superior.
My preference is to understand the subject best I can under the circumstance.

Thanks for the heads up on Advanced Auto Parts deal. Does Mobil 1 still make the oil filter for LT5? I thought they discontinued.

I am not sure, I don't think so. I run the original black filters or a Bosch.
I run the Mobil 1's on my LT1 and LS1.
They will let you substitute up to a $12 filter, I believe.

I like the sharing of information and ideas. We have had some good threads going lately.

[Jim Nolan]

One thing I will add is when I bought my ZR-1 10 years ago I would get cam chain rattle on start about every 4th or 5th start up. After about my 3rd oil change on Mobil 1 it's gone away and has never appeared again. Maybe it had dino oil in it, I don't know but, I'll stick with what seems to work.