Trying a ZR-1 tonight but no power key said the owner

[WVZR-1]

Originally Posted by MuRCieLaGo

So basically I can simply ground that wire and take it for a ride with the valet key - that way I will have full power?

Thanks a lot for the help!

For a '90 just get a GM D-blank door key cut to code 91C9 and you'll have a functioning "valet". No jumping or dis-assembly.

Is this the car that was in Toronto?

[MuRCieLaGo]

Oh wow thank you! I hope the local GM dealership got one in stock!

[MuRCieLaGo]

Do you think a blank key like that is hard to get?

[WVZR-1]

Originally Posted by MuRCieLaGo

Do you think a blank key like that is hard to get?

You will NOT have any problem, if your question is the 91C9 code, that is just coincidental. I assure you if it's NOT been tampered with the D-blank 91C9 will work, even in a Canadian car.

Any GM dealer or local hardware that does keys.

[MuRCieLaGo]

Ok so I just have to go to any key cutter, tell them I need a key cut for a '90 ZR-1 with the code 91C9 and bingo?

If so, I think you're my hero.

[WVZR-1]

Originally Posted by MuRCieLaGo

Ok so I just have to go to any key cutter, tell them I need a key cut for a '90 ZR-1 with the code 91C9 and bingo?

If so, I think you're my hero.

You don't need to or even want to mention ZR-1. It's not important. Just the D-code blank and the 91C9 code. The key will be an oval-head door blank. Don't be concerned.

Originally Posted by MuRCieLaGo

I thought the original power key had a chip on it...

No chips

Now if the owner has already by-passed the key and then lost/misplaced the key then I'd think he would know and pass on the information. In that case, if the owner has by-passed the key wouldn't be a factor, it should perform as an always-on modified car.

I likely have an NOS original key with the knock-out still in it.

[Paul Workman]

Also...

On a '90 that has the (popular) secondaries deleted modification, whether there is a POWER key or not or whether it is turned on or not the FULL ENGINE POWER will be illuminated on the center display status screen (above the radio, etc.) IF the the switch has been modified (per Mike 100s post).

WARNING:

IF the chip has been modified so that the Secondary Port Throttles have been permanently "turned on", then the "NORMAL vs. FULL POWER (key switch) MUST always be in FULL POWER mode. Otherwise a serious/dagerous lean condition will exist and can result in burnt valves. So, to be safe, the wires going to the switch are often jumpered together (per Mike 100s post).

[Dynomite]

Originally Posted by Paul Workman

Also...

On a '90 that has the (popular) secondaries deleted modification, whether there is a POWER key or not or whether it is turned on or not the FULL ENGINE POWER will be illuminated on the center display status screen (above the radio, etc.) IF the the switch has been modified (per Mike 100s post).

WARNING:

IF the chip has been modified so that the Secondary Port Throttles have been permanently "turned on", then the "NORMAL vs. FULL POWER (key switch) MUST always be in FULL POWER mode. Otherwise a serious/dagerous lean condition will exist and can result in burnt valves. So, to be safe, the wires going to the switch are often jumpered together (per Mike 100s post).

Lots to remember for those that eliminate their secondairies

On my 90's I just turn Power Key ON to see that nice Display FULL ENGINE POWER or Power Key OFF to delete the FULL ENGINE POWER from the Display.

Nothing to remember and NOTHING that can go wrong. And I have Marc Haibeck CHIPS.

WARNING:

And my 90's will probably out run most other 90's with or without Secondaries
eliminated (That is Serious/Dangerous or Dagerous Power)

I have my Secondaries.......Just Saying

Just having a little fun Paul

[Paul Workman]

Originally Posted by Dynomite

Lots to remember for those that eliminate their secondairies

On my 90's I just turn Power Key ON to see that nice Display FULL ENGINE POWER or Power Key OFF to delete the FULL ENGINE POWER from the Display.

Nothing to remember and NOTHING that can go wrong. And I have Marc Haibeck CHIPS.

WARNING:

And my 90's will probably out run most other 90's with or without Secondaries
eliminated (That is Serious/Dangerous or Dagerous Power)

I have my Secondaries.......Just Saying

Just having a little fun Paul

Does sound like a lot, huh? (Didn't mean to overwhelm ya!) But, seriously...after the first time I noticed the FULL ENGINE POWER was not lit, and just barely wiggling the key switch "fixed" it...OUT CAME THE SOLDERING iron and never again will that ever be a potential issue. Juuuuust sayin!

[Dynomite]

Originally Posted by Paul Workman

Also...

On a '90 that has the (popular) secondaries deleted modification, whether there is a POWER key or not or whether it is turned on or not the FULL ENGINE POWER will be illuminated on the center display status screen (above the radio, etc.) IF the the switch has been modified (per Mike 100s post).

WARNING:

IF the chip has been modified so that the Secondary Port Throttles have been permanently "turned on", then the "NORMAL vs. FULL POWER (key switch) MUST always be in FULL POWER mode. Otherwise a serious/dagerous lean condition will exist and can result in burnt valves. So, to be safe, the wires going to the switch are often jumpered together (per Mike 100s post).

On the 91' there is no display. There is a green light next to the POWER Key which illuminates with POWER Key turned on (clockwise).

On a 91' SANS Secondaries with modified CHIP I think you are saying the Injector Functions have been modified/matched to the SANS Secondaries. The issue of a lean condition you describe as serious is when you remove Secondaries WITHOUT a CHIP to alter the Injector Functions.

Do NOT remove or tie open your Secondaires WITHOUT modifying your CHIP !!!!!
Your Warning says that in the second sentence.......Excellent Point Paul