Starting issue

[LGAFF]

Connected the clutch wires......replaced what I think was the starter relay....did not seem to jive with the diagram, but the wires were yellow/blck and connected to thec clutch switch....so I think I have it right

[Z51JEFF]

Originally Posted by LGAFF

Connmected the clutch wires......replaced what I think was the starter relay....did not seem to jive with the diagram, but the wires were yellow/blck and connected to thec clutch switch....so I think I have it right

The yellow stripped black wire is for the starter relay,thats the ground I believe.

[LGAFF]

[LGAFF]

Is this the backside of the Starter relay? one with yellow wires?

[Z51JEFF]

The starter relay is the one closest to the column,I think.I pulled the relay and tried to start the car just to make sure.The yellow stripped black wire should be the relay ground,the 14-16 gage wire with the non factory blue splice connector on it.

[Z51JEFF]

Its hard to make out anything in these pictures but this is the splice I made for the new ground,I ran a 10 gage ground wire from the splice to a stud coming off of the dash support.[IMG][/IMG][IMG][/IMG][IMG][/IMG]

[scottfab]

Originally Posted by LGAFF

...snip...

-There is a voltage drop when I turn the key, but no clicking, nothing happens

Can you explain "voltage drop"? On the battery? or ???

Originally Posted by LGAFF

-Had the battery checked: no issues 12.6 volats

-Checked the alt: outputting 13.8-14.1 volts; steady output

The important number is what the battery measures when the key is turned. If 11.5 - 12.6 then fine.

Originally Posted by LGAFF

**If you jump start it, bang....starts right up and will run good for days

**Starter is new

Just by this I'd say battery but more info needed.
Thing about the clutch switch on the early cars is you never want to turn the key before fully depressing the clutch peddle. The contacts can handle the current just fine IF the switch is engaged. Problems happens when the key is turned first and the then the peddle pushed (or at the same time). The switch gets arced in this case. Too many times arcing the switch damages them. I had a problem in 97 but none since then.

[LGAFF]

I almost think its the battery also, it was made 6/2012 and installed this year. They did a load test yesterday and its fine.

We will find out

[LGAFF]

Scott by volatage drop I am referring to the fact that when you turn the key volts drop on the dash

[Tyler Townsley]

Originally Posted by LGAFF

Connected the clutch wires......replaced what I think was the starter relay....did not seem to jive with the diagram, but the wires were yellow/blck and connected to thec clutch switch....so I think I have it right

90-91s do not have a relay in the ckt which is the problem, usually the clutch switch activates a relay to better handle the current. As I said the clutch switch takes all the current and becomes unstable. If you follow the purple wire you can just jump around the switch where they go down to the switch.

yler