Bull Run

[XfireZ51]

Lance,

Big game last night w AC beating Barca 2-nil.

[LancePearson]

Crossfire...I noticed that this morning. Can you believe that Real Madrid's Christiano Reynaldo and Barca's Lionel Messi scored over 150 goals combined, all play, league, champions league? Amazing guys. I read somewhere late last year that Man Uted had been signed by Corvette as their sponsor and that part of the deal was they were giving each first team player a new Corvette. Wish I played!

I had a ticket to see man u play man city in their April 6 Derby at Old Trafford but they did well enough so far in the Champions league they changed the date to the 8th and made that subject to change and my dog sitters can't do that. They cancelled the 4/6 ticket is how I found out and that ticket cost me $561 u.s. as it was so I gave up since it's too variable to do internationally with the limitations I happen to have. I'll enjoy the Wazoo Carlisle event at the Miller home equally as well and not have to trot through customs either. Maybe next year I can get a ticket to the finals of the Fifa men's world cup in Rio in July. They go on sale late this year. Will see though the flight is three hours longer. No over the pole routes to Rio.

[XfireZ51]

I don't want to divert the thread too much further, but does that mean Van Persie and Rooney are driving Vettes?

[LancePearson]

They got their cars last week I think it was. they had their choice and some picked family cars like Van Persie with kids. Rooney picked a Camarro and Carrick picked a Corvette. The deal is for $519,000,000 to Man Uted over time by GM. The Gaffer, Sir Alex, would not let any player under 23 pick a fast car like the Vette or the Camarro with h.s. engines in them. C. R.eynaldo when there had a little problem. I don't remember what he wrecked but something like a Ferrari....

http://www.kckrs.com/manchester-unit...ooks-thrilled/

It's gonna take a lot of Corvette sales to pay back $519,000,000 of advertising.

[Fully Vetted]

Wait a minute...over half a Billion dollars?! They learned nothing in bankrupcty did they?

[LancePearson]

multi year deal but it seems like a lot to me as well.

[Fully Vetted]

Typical GM bull crap. Sponsor everything with a bass boat, four wheels or 2 legs and then explain to congress they need bailout money because the unions are bleeding them dry and nobody wants to buy their crappy cars.

[XfireZ51]

I recall that this was a deal signed just before the GM Chief Marketing Officer got canned. Forget who he was, but this was seen as a reason why he isn't there anymore.
Here's the story:

http://articles.latimes.com/2012/jul...fired-20120730

[LancePearson]

Originally Posted by Fully Vetted

Typical GM bull crap. Sponsor everything with a bass boat, four wheels or 2 legs and then explain to congress they need bailout money because the unions are bleeding them dry and nobody wants to buy their crappy cars.

Its also true that a company who loses 50% of their market share to asian new competitors thenhas huge amounts invested in excess capacity which is idle and hits the bottom line hard. This at a time when honda, toyota, nissan, hyundai, kia all entered a world market that could produce 90, 000, 000 cars a year when sales were 40, 000, 000 a year. You are lucky toyota does not own gm now! CHRYSLER faced the same thing and after mercedes lost $30billion of the 38 billion theey overpaid for chrysler,,, eventually Fiat ended up owning them. Volvo owned by a chinese co now, jaguar by an Indian company, tata I think....rolls by the germans and Saab...gone along with olds, pontiac, plymouth, et al. Not just as simple as you say though pensions were an issue as well. Biggest changes in the industry in maybe 50 years. I wonder how you keep a dedicated vette factory going on 13, 000 cars a year....and basically take an entire year of that off to make a model change.

Methinks the vettes we love are not guaranteed a future at all. Will see by 2015 if they even survive...it is an issue.

[Fully Vetted]

Originally Posted by LancePearson

Its also true that a company who loses 50% of their market share to asian new competitors then has huge amounts invested in excess capacity which is idle and hits the bottom line hard.

And that happened because people got fed up with spending hard earned money for crap that wouldn't last 100,000 miles. So, they started buying the best product for the money and they ended up buying foreign cars.

I thought they had learned their lesson until I read about their Man U sponsorship. Put half a billion dollars into product development and technology advancement and half a billion dollars into sports team sponsorship and see which has the greatest ROI in 10 years.

Idiots. They deserve whatever happens to them. Unfortunately, their employees do not...