03-05-2006 | #11 |
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Re: Paint care for your Z.
wow u guys just answered all the ?'s I had on a big Zaino post I have over on Corvette Valley on Zaino products! WAX ON WAX OFF...remember that ad slogan???
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03-05-2006 | #12 |
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Here is what I have been using for the past year and love it. I could not remember what it was called initially, but I imagine this is like Zaino (maybe?)
You'll notice it mentions use on BOATS/fiberglass......Don't we have a BOAT engine . I love it because I use it for everything including the glass and my CCW wheels. Like someone already said, personal preference and you end up sticking with something that works for you. I don't know if my paint can look any better than it does but I might try Zaino some day if I see one in person and like it. Frequently Asked Questions
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03-05-2006 | #13 |
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So the long-and-short is the product is Klasse?
Klasse is an acrylic product, the AIO is a very good chemical cleaner. I use it for prepping for many other products such as Zaino, etc. It cleans well, is easy to use, and leaves a nice smooth acrylic layer (albeit one that isn't overly durable on its own). I find SG a very interesting product. You can literally see it cure. Put it on thick and there will be raised thick lines of clearish acrylic that are reasonably difficult to buff off. It has an interested polished look to it, though not always my favorite. But certainly good looking, and a very interesting product. Klasse is one of those ones I'd always keep around just because of its uniqueness. If you've never tried it, try AIO on things like porcelain countertops, etc.
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03-05-2006 | #14 |
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Hey Aurora 40,
I'm glad to hear from someone else that has used the Klasse product. Having used (All in One) it and Zaino over it, I take it you recommend I use Zaino instead of the Klasse High Gloss Sealant Glaze? Thanks for your advice, Craig |
03-05-2006 | #15 |
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Well, it all depends on what you prefer. On my Aurora, I'm currently using AIO followed by SG. The SG shows a bit more of the "red" of the paint, and I also feel like it lasts longer than Zaino. Though both are an excellent choice. Just use whichever one gives you the result you prefer, or the ease-of-use you prefer, etc.
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03-05-2006 | #16 |
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Thanks, good to hear from someone who has first hand experience. I am impressed by the photos on Zaino website, but it sure does sound like a lot of work and products to get to show car shine. I can feel my fingers getting carpal tunnel syndrome already. Thanks again for your replies.
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03-05-2006 | #17 |
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Re: Paint care for your Z.
HERE ARE THE DETAILS I HAVE BEEN LOOKING FOR.......
Carnauba Wax vs. Paint Sealants Carnauba Wax vs. Paint Sealants Learn the facts on each. You have two basic choices when it comes to paint protection: carnauba or synthetic. Both have their good points, and the choice is really all about personal preference. Carnauba wax is the preferred wax of collectors and concours enthusiasts because it creates a rich, warm glow. It doesn’t appear to sit on the paint. It transforms the paint into a deep, liquid pool that shimmers under changing light conditions. The more carnauba, the more shine. The wax is produced by the Brazilian Tree of Life in order to coat its leaves. The wax provides protection from the sweltering sun and it sheds water so it falls onto the ground and is absorbed by the tree’s roots. If you think back to junior high science class, you might remember that plants absorb oxygen through their leaves. For this reason, carnauba wax is breathable. Good for the tree and good for your paint. Carnauba is rock hard in its natural form. When the leaves of the Tree of Life are harvested, the wax flakes off as the leaves dry out, or they are put into a machine that removes the wax. It comes off in hard flakes. Wax makers have to blend the wax with oils, petroleum distillates, or a solvent called naptha (commonly used to thin wood varnishes and paints) in order to make the wax workable. The very best carnauba-based wax is only about 1/3 natural carnauba. It’s probably for the best since the price gets higher and higher as the concentration of carnauba rises. When a product advertises “pure carnauba wax” or “100% carnauba wax”, they are referring to the purity of the carnauba that is in the product, not the product as a whole. One example is Mother’s California Gold Pure Carnauba Paste Wax. That brings us to grading. Carnauba is harvested and then graded according to color, purity, and where it was grown. Trees grown in the northern area of Brazil produce the highest grade carnauba. The yellow wax is the most pure and therefore receives the highest grade. This is the grade most commonly used in high end car waxes and in the pharmaceutical industry. (They coat pills in it so they go down easier.) Some manufacturers refine the yellow wax again into an ultra-pure white wax. Such is the case with Pinnacle Souveran. As you’ve already read, carnauba protects the leaves of a certain palm tree from the intense heat and humidity experienced in Brazil. The wax repels water and, consequently, most contaminants. When applied to any surface, carnauba retains these characteristics. Therefore, an application of a carnauba-based wax to your vehicle will protect it from UV rays, heat, moisture, oxidation, and environmental contamination. And it looks like a million bucks! The drawback of carnauba, if you can call it a drawback, is that it does not last as long as a synthetic sealant. A carnauba finish will wear off in approximately 6 to 8 weeks. It depends heavily on the climate in which you live and whether or not your vehicle is garaged. Daily commutes in a hot, humid climate mean a shorter life span for your carnauba coat. In a nutshell, carnauba wax is the wax of enthusiasts. It appeals to people who want the absolute most stunning shine available and are willing to spend a couple of hours every month or so to get it. Most of them will tell you it is time well spent. Paint sealants are kind of the anti-carnauba. They last a lot longer, they are easy to apply, and there’s nothing natural about them. This is surface science at its best. A paint sealant is made of polymers, which are composed of tens of thousands of synthetic particles that are linked together. When a sealant bonds to your vehicle’s paint, it forms a rigid shell. It is not the warm carnauba that seems to melt into the paint. Paint sealants sit on top of the paint like a transparent chain metal suit. They are glossy and slick, but they do not have the warmth and depth of a carnauba. Paint sealants have gotten progressively more popular as time goes on. Some people really love the hard-as-glass look. In an industry that is driven by technology, it seems appropriate that an engineered paint protector is the new favorite among the younger generation of detailers. However, the real selling point of a paint sealant is the durability. A premium paint sealant can last 4 to 6 months, sometimes longer. Klasse High Gloss Sealant Glaze, for example, can last up to 12 months. Wolfgang Deep Gloss Paint Sealant lasts the more typical 4 to 6 months. By “last”, I mean that water will continue to bead and the paint will remain protected from UV rays and contamination. For people that spend more time driving than detailing, the paint sealant may be the way to go. Paint sealants are extremely easy to apply. They are always in liquid form and they spread easily by hand or with a polisher. This time-saving feature makes paint sealants an attractive choice for those who like instant gratification, and who doesn’t? As you’ve seen, there are a lot of differences between paint sealants and natural carnauba waxes. Glassy, hard shell or deep, liquid shine? Six months or six weeks? These are the basic questions you have to answer before selecting your paint protection. However, a growing number of enthusiasts simply refuse to choose. Instead, they coat their vehicles with a layer of sealant for long-lasting protection and then top it with a layer of carnauba for the dazzling shine. Even if you forget to reapply carnauba in 6 weeks, your paint won’t suffer. It’s the perfect marriage of beauty and longevity! Remember, paint protection is one of your vehicle’s basic necessities. No matter what kind of product you choose, Autogeek has got your vehicle covered.
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03-06-2006 | #18 |
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Re: Paint care for your Z.
I have been looking for something different for the Z and went to the Zaino website. Doesn't look too difficult compared to regular waxing. I ordered the premier kit and going to give it a try when the snow melts. Just got done with the calipers and slotted rotors. Looks good!!
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