ZR-1 Net Registry Forums  

Go Back   ZR-1 Net Registry Forums > C4 ZR-1 > C4 ZR-1 Technical Postings

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 09-03-2021   #1
RichieDMD
 
Join Date: Feb 2020
Location: Oregon
Posts: 67
Default Emissions Testing - Valet or Full Mode

So, my 1995 ZR-1 should be arriving today and I've got to get it emissions tested before I can register it. I know that the car recently passed the California smog test...so it should be no problem. I'll ask the former owner what mode he had it in.

But for general knowledge, is one mode better than the other for keeping emissions low. Oregon requires the Hydrocarbons to be lower than 220ppm and the Carbon Monoxide to be lower than 1.0%.

Also, if valet mode is preferred...can I switch from one mode to the other while the car is running or does the car need to be shut off to switch it?
RichieDMD is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-03-2021   #2
HAWAIIZR-1
 
HAWAIIZR-1's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Japan
Posts: 3,582
Default Emissions Testing - Valet or Full Mode

My 95 was always emissions tested in valet mode in both California and now Japan. Japan is way stricter that even California with 12 different conditions for the test when being imported.

Valet mode to full power can be switched at any time, but certain conditions have to be met before full power can actually be activated. It would depend on how much throttle needs to be used in the testing if it would actually make a difference. I actually had Marc Haibeck burn me a chip just for emissions testing because I was having a hard time passing in Japan to sort of detune the car.


Sent from my iPhone using ZR-1 Net Registry
__________________
Craig
"ZR-1 NO KA 'OI"
"ZR-1 ICHIBAN"
1995 #228 Black/Black with Dunn Heads
ZR-1 owner since September 2003
ZR-1 Net Registry Founding Member #0074
NCM Lifetime Member #2048


Last edited by HAWAIIZR-1; 09-03-2021 at 11:38 AM.
HAWAIIZR-1 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-03-2021   #3
RichieDMD
 
Join Date: Feb 2020
Location: Oregon
Posts: 67
Default Re: Emissions Testing - Valet or Full Mode

Quote:
Originally Posted by HAWAIIZR-1 View Post
My 95 was always emissions tested in valet mode in both California and now Japan. Japan is way stricter that even California with 12 different conditions for the test when being imported.

Valet mode to full power can be switched at any time, but certain conditions have to be met before full power can actually be activated. It would depend on how much throttle needs to be used in the testing if it would actually make a difference. I actually had Marc Haibeck burn me a chip just for emissions testing because I was having a hard time passing in Japan to sort of detune the car.


Sent from my iPhone using ZR-1 Net Registry
In Oregon, it's literally a sniffer in the tail pipe at idle. Nothing fancy.
RichieDMD is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-03-2021   #4
Jagdpanzer
 
Jagdpanzer's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Northern VA
Posts: 2,661
Default Re: Emissions Testing - Valet or Full Mode

Depends on the road speeds the tests are done at. The stock chip activates the EGR valve above 17 mph if memory serves me. An active EGR is essential for achieving low NOX test readings. In Northern Virginia they do the low speed test at 15 mph which I was having a hard time passing a few years back. So I had Marc Haibeck lower the EGR activation point to 13 mph and easily passed NOX by 150 ppm.
Hydrocarbons should not be a problem provided the engine is in good tune and the cats are working properly.


Sent from my iPhone using ZR-1 Net Registry
__________________
Phil Wasinger
1994 Torch Red ZR-1
WAZOO Member
George Braml Intake
Jagdpanzer is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-03-2021   #5
DRM500RUBYZR-1
 
DRM500RUBYZR-1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Mullica Hill, New Jersey
Posts: 2,593
Default Re: Emissions Testing - Valet or Full Mode

Others have said bribery works very well!

Marty
DRM500RUBYZR-1 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-03-2021   #6
RichieDMD
 
Join Date: Feb 2020
Location: Oregon
Posts: 67
Default Re: Emissions Testing - Valet or Full Mode

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jagdpanzer View Post
Depends on the road speeds the tests are done at. The stock chip activates the EGR valve above 17 mph if memory serves me. An active EGR is essential for achieving low NOX test readings. In Northern Virginia they do the low speed test at 15 mph which I was having a hard time passing a few years back. So I had Marc Haibeck lower the EGR activation point to 13 mph and easily passed NOX by 150 ppm.
Hydrocarbons should not be a problem provided the engine is in good tune and the cats are working properly.


Sent from my iPhone using ZR-1 Net Registry
No road test in Oregon. You simply pull into a bay, let it idle and they do a sniffer in the tail pipe. My guess is since it passed in California recently, it will pass in either mode in Oregon.

I spoke with the previous owner and he said he did it in valet mode in California so I will do the same here. I'm gonna try and go today once the car is delivered.
RichieDMD is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-03-2021   #7
RichieDMD
 
Join Date: Feb 2020
Location: Oregon
Posts: 67
Default Re: Emissions Testing - Valet or Full Mode

Car passed easily. Oregon requires the Hydrocarbons to be lower than 220ppm, it was at 13ppm. Carbon Monoxide must be lower than 1.0%, it was at 0.
RichieDMD is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-03-2021   #8
Jagdpanzer
 
Jagdpanzer's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Northern VA
Posts: 2,661
Default Re: Emissions Testing - Valet or Full Mode

Did they measure NOX?
To clarify the road speed tests I mentioned are done on rollers at the smog station.


Sent from my iPhone using ZR-1 Net Registry
__________________
Phil Wasinger
1994 Torch Red ZR-1
WAZOO Member
George Braml Intake
Jagdpanzer is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-03-2021   #9
RichieDMD
 
Join Date: Feb 2020
Location: Oregon
Posts: 67
Default Re: Emissions Testing - Valet or Full Mode

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jagdpanzer View Post
Did they measure NOX?
To clarify the road speed tests I mentioned are done on rollers at the smog station.


Sent from my iPhone using ZR-1 Net Registry
No. It's just a hydrocarbons and CO test.
RichieDMD is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-04-2021   #10
WARP TEN
 
WARP TEN's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Lake Bluff, IL
Posts: 2,095
Default Re: Emissions Testing - Valet or Full Mode

I recall that in Illinois, when they required testing of older cars, they used dyno type rollers so the car was running and being shifted. To pass testing, I always reinstalled a stock chip to reinstate the 1-4 skip shift. It turned out that (based on Marc's testing) when the car was shifted from second to third it spiked the HC counts so cars would fail. Using the skip shift feature to take it from first to fourth and the cars passed. Of course you had to warn the driver about it, and I always sat in the car while he "drove" on the rollers. --Bob
__________________
2016 Long Beach Red Z06 #10281 "POPS Z"
1995 Polo Green #409 "WARP TEN"--Haibeck 350/510 package, 4.10s, Hurst, Stock Exhaust with QTP Cutouts
--Sold but still running strong
1993 Quasar Blue #161 "HIL KING"
--Sold but still running strong, now with more than 120,000 miles
1967 Marlboro Maroon/Saddle Corvette Coupe 300 hp/4-spd
--Sold a long time ago
ZR-1 Net Registry Founding Member #95
NCM Lifetime Member
Favorite Quote--Attributed to Mickey Thompson:
"Too Much Horsepower is Almost Enough"
WARP TEN is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 09:57 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
Copyright ZR-1 Net Registry 2020