ZR-1 Net Registry Forums  

Go Back   ZR-1 Net Registry Forums > C4 ZR-1 > C4 ZR-1 Technical Postings

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 02-17-2008   #1
Paul Workman
 
Paul Workman's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Squires (near Ava MO in the Mark Twain N'tl Forest) - Missouri
Posts: 6,493
Default How to calibrate the tac??

I have verified that my tac registers "a bit" high. (Reading the FSM, I see the tac registers rpm via monitoring pulses - but that alone doesn't tell me if it is a digital on an analog tac (but, I digress..).)

Now knowing the error amount I can allow for it. But, if I want to, how do I calibrate the tac?

TIA,

P.
Paul Workman is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-19-2008   #2
tomtom72
 
tomtom72's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Jacksonville, FL USA
Posts: 4,645
Default Re: How to calibrate the tac??

I don't know the answer.
But I've seen alot of threads on Tach subjects over in the C4 Tech section over at you know where......land of mojo & savewave.....I've never read any of them as I'm not fluent in electronics.


Tom
__________________
1990 ZR-1, Black/grey, #2233, stock. ZR-1 Net Reg Founding Member #316 & NCM member
tomtom72 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-19-2008   #3
GOLDCYLON
 
GOLDCYLON's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Peoria, AZ
Posts: 9,155
Default Re: How to calibrate the tac??

Quote:
Originally Posted by Paul Workman
I have verified that my tac registers "a bit" high. (Reading the FSM, I see the tac registers rpm via monitoring pulses - but that alone doesn't tell me if it is a digital on an analog tac (but, I digress..).)

Now knowing the error amount I can allow for it. But, if I want to, how do I calibrate the tac?

TIA,

P.
Paul what does you Tach read at idle? The 90s had a PROM upgrade due to surge issues and such but Id like to know what you standard idle number is? D
__________________
GOLDCYLON - 91 ZR-1 #2014
GOLDCYLON - 90 ZR-1 #2794, 4L60e (Formerly Schrade's)

GOLDCYLON - 11 CTS-V


Arizona State Director




91 WHITE/BLACK #2014. 380 P&P&PCed,Ported Heads, Jeal Long tubes, Corsa Exhaust/FIKSE FM-5s /LED TLs, LED Headlights, Front Wilwood 6 piston narrowlite calipers and rear Wilwood caliper street shop mod,CNCed Coolant Pipes,TPI Cvr,Filter cover,Stainless Bolts, DRM/DOM PROM /ZFDOC mod build #102,DRLs,BMAD with stainless Debris Screen,Coplan Air Blaster, Pioneer APP Radio 4,Brey-Krause HB,Sub Bar,Fire extinguisher seat mount,DRM Coilovers,LEDs everywhere,Compass mirror (orange),V1 DIC hidden display, Homelink sun visor, Carbon Fiber top x3 and APSIS Carbon Fiber interior, APSIS CF Steering Wheel/NAPA Leather, Banski trailing arms, Guldstrand front suspension,urethane bushings from Prothane (total suspension) ZFDoc drive shaft safety loop, raptor shift light (orange),AO engineering louver front plate, Console seat cushion, 96CE seats with black custom Sheepskins, ss billet catch can,Viper remote entry/alarm,Cragar Rear Louvers,LED side louver lights, Dewitts Radiator with SPAL fans and a Woods 160 T-Stat

90 RED/BLACK #2794. 4L60e Automatic Stage V by RPM Transmission, TCI Dedicated TCM, OBX Stainless Headers, Corsa Exhaust, SAN Secondaries and Haibeck PROM, Exotic Muscle Coil overs, LED Interior Lights, LED Tail Lights, LED Headlights, 94 Sport seats with black custom Sheepskins , Cragar rear louvers, GS Front calipers, Banski Trailing arms, APSIS Carbon Fiber steering wheel, Front and Rear Baer Eradispeeds, DRLs, Guldstrand front suspension,urethane bushings from Prothane (total suspension), Dewitt's Raditor with Dual SPAL fans and a Haibeck 170 T-Stat

11 RED/GREY CTS-V
GOLDCYLON is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-19-2008   #4
Paul Workman
 
Paul Workman's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Squires (near Ava MO in the Mark Twain N'tl Forest) - Missouri
Posts: 6,493
Default Re: How to calibrate the tac??

Daryll, at idle it reads just below 1000, I'm guessing between "750 and 800". Mine is a 90, and I don't know if it has a modified chip or not, but idle speed varies, depending on engine temp, etc.

I compared the tac reading to the scanner reading at a 2k and 3k (on the tac) and it would seem there is roughly a 15% error at 3k. I don't know if it is purely proportional or if there is also a fixed error integration at work as well. That's about as far as I got before reading up on it in the FSM (which I didn't find anything useful as far as calibrating goes).

However, with the switch on but not running, the tac indicates "-500" rpm, for whatever that is worth???.

P.
Paul Workman is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-19-2008   #5
Jeffvette
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default Re: How to calibrate the tac??

Unfortunately, there is no calibration.
  Reply With Quote
Old 02-19-2008   #6
GOLDCYLON
 
GOLDCYLON's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Peoria, AZ
Posts: 9,155
Default Re: How to calibrate the tac??

Quote:
Originally Posted by Paul Workman
Daryll, at idle it reads just below 1000, I'm guessing between "750 and 800". Mine is a 90, and I don't know if it has a modified chip or not, but idle speed varies, depending on engine temp, etc.

I compared the tac reading to the scanner reading at a 2k and 3k (on the tac) and it would seem there is roughly a 15% error at 3k. I don't know if it is purely proportional or if there is also a fixed error integration at work as well. That's about as far as I got before reading up on it in the FSM (which I didn't find anything useful as far as calibrating goes).

However, with the switch on but not running, the tac indicates "-500" rpm, for whatever that is worth???.

P.
Paul well that Idle reading is normal. At least thats what my 91 reads and a lot of other folks are in the 750-800 idle range. The chip "prom" ugrade in the 90s was done as a recall to lessen the instances of high idle that would occur for longer than 5 seconds after you would come to a stop. I will need to look at that minus -500 issue on mine to see if mine does the same.
__________________
GOLDCYLON - 91 ZR-1 #2014
GOLDCYLON - 90 ZR-1 #2794, 4L60e (Formerly Schrade's)

GOLDCYLON - 11 CTS-V


Arizona State Director




91 WHITE/BLACK #2014. 380 P&P&PCed,Ported Heads, Jeal Long tubes, Corsa Exhaust/FIKSE FM-5s /LED TLs, LED Headlights, Front Wilwood 6 piston narrowlite calipers and rear Wilwood caliper street shop mod,CNCed Coolant Pipes,TPI Cvr,Filter cover,Stainless Bolts, DRM/DOM PROM /ZFDOC mod build #102,DRLs,BMAD with stainless Debris Screen,Coplan Air Blaster, Pioneer APP Radio 4,Brey-Krause HB,Sub Bar,Fire extinguisher seat mount,DRM Coilovers,LEDs everywhere,Compass mirror (orange),V1 DIC hidden display, Homelink sun visor, Carbon Fiber top x3 and APSIS Carbon Fiber interior, APSIS CF Steering Wheel/NAPA Leather, Banski trailing arms, Guldstrand front suspension,urethane bushings from Prothane (total suspension) ZFDoc drive shaft safety loop, raptor shift light (orange),AO engineering louver front plate, Console seat cushion, 96CE seats with black custom Sheepskins, ss billet catch can,Viper remote entry/alarm,Cragar Rear Louvers,LED side louver lights, Dewitts Radiator with SPAL fans and a Woods 160 T-Stat

90 RED/BLACK #2794. 4L60e Automatic Stage V by RPM Transmission, TCI Dedicated TCM, OBX Stainless Headers, Corsa Exhaust, SAN Secondaries and Haibeck PROM, Exotic Muscle Coil overs, LED Interior Lights, LED Tail Lights, LED Headlights, 94 Sport seats with black custom Sheepskins , Cragar rear louvers, GS Front calipers, Banski Trailing arms, APSIS Carbon Fiber steering wheel, Front and Rear Baer Eradispeeds, DRLs, Guldstrand front suspension,urethane bushings from Prothane (total suspension), Dewitt's Raditor with Dual SPAL fans and a Haibeck 170 T-Stat

11 RED/GREY CTS-V
GOLDCYLON is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-19-2008   #7
Paul Workman
 
Paul Workman's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Squires (near Ava MO in the Mark Twain N'tl Forest) - Missouri
Posts: 6,493
Default Re: How to calibrate the tac??

Thanks for the info, guys. Well, it looks cool to run the tac up past 8k and it's still pulling hard!

P.
Paul Workman is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-19-2008   #8
DaveK
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Sudbury, Ontario. Canada
Posts: 1,538
Default Re: How to calibrate the tac??

Are you running a different (non standard) rear-end ratio? When I first got mine with 4.10s the gauges were about that far out and I used the gears from Marc Haibeck to correct it.
__________________
1991 #1516 Black/Black

davidmkelly.com

"Speed is often confused with insight." - Johan Cruijff
DaveK is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-19-2008   #9
GOLDCYLON
 
GOLDCYLON's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Peoria, AZ
Posts: 9,155
Default Re: How to calibrate the tac??

Quote:
Originally Posted by DaveK
Are you running a different (non standard) rear-end ratio? When I first got mine with 4.10s the gauges were about that far out and I used the gears from Marc Haibeck to correct it.

Thats a very good guess and a strong possibility.
__________________
GOLDCYLON - 91 ZR-1 #2014
GOLDCYLON - 90 ZR-1 #2794, 4L60e (Formerly Schrade's)

GOLDCYLON - 11 CTS-V


Arizona State Director




91 WHITE/BLACK #2014. 380 P&P&PCed,Ported Heads, Jeal Long tubes, Corsa Exhaust/FIKSE FM-5s /LED TLs, LED Headlights, Front Wilwood 6 piston narrowlite calipers and rear Wilwood caliper street shop mod,CNCed Coolant Pipes,TPI Cvr,Filter cover,Stainless Bolts, DRM/DOM PROM /ZFDOC mod build #102,DRLs,BMAD with stainless Debris Screen,Coplan Air Blaster, Pioneer APP Radio 4,Brey-Krause HB,Sub Bar,Fire extinguisher seat mount,DRM Coilovers,LEDs everywhere,Compass mirror (orange),V1 DIC hidden display, Homelink sun visor, Carbon Fiber top x3 and APSIS Carbon Fiber interior, APSIS CF Steering Wheel/NAPA Leather, Banski trailing arms, Guldstrand front suspension,urethane bushings from Prothane (total suspension) ZFDoc drive shaft safety loop, raptor shift light (orange),AO engineering louver front plate, Console seat cushion, 96CE seats with black custom Sheepskins, ss billet catch can,Viper remote entry/alarm,Cragar Rear Louvers,LED side louver lights, Dewitts Radiator with SPAL fans and a Woods 160 T-Stat

90 RED/BLACK #2794. 4L60e Automatic Stage V by RPM Transmission, TCI Dedicated TCM, OBX Stainless Headers, Corsa Exhaust, SAN Secondaries and Haibeck PROM, Exotic Muscle Coil overs, LED Interior Lights, LED Tail Lights, LED Headlights, 94 Sport seats with black custom Sheepskins , Cragar rear louvers, GS Front calipers, Banski Trailing arms, APSIS Carbon Fiber steering wheel, Front and Rear Baer Eradispeeds, DRLs, Guldstrand front suspension,urethane bushings from Prothane (total suspension), Dewitt's Raditor with Dual SPAL fans and a Haibeck 170 T-Stat

11 RED/GREY CTS-V
GOLDCYLON is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-19-2008   #10
Aurora40
 
Aurora40's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Leesburg, VA
Posts: 2,713
Default Re: How to calibrate the tac??

Quote:
Originally Posted by DaveK
Are you running a different (non standard) rear-end ratio? When I first got mine with 4.10s the gauges were about that far out and I used the gears from Marc Haibeck to correct it.
Doesn't that just correct the VSS signal? I.e the speedo? I would hope RPM information does not come from the transmission.

It sounds to me like your tach is just one of the ones that isn't that accurate. It sucks, but I get the impression there isn't much to do about it unless you want to try a new gauge cluster?
__________________
Bob Saveland
Former owner of #2517

[IMG]http://a.random-image.net/aurora40/vette.jpg[/img]
Aurora40 is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 02:52 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
Copyright ZR-1 Net Registry 2020