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Old 09-03-2010   #21
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Dennis: Would you have come out? I would hope so.

Does it matter if he would have come out? How can you plan to attend something you are unaware of?
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Does it matter if he would have come out? How can you plan to attend something you are unaware of?
Read my post again. My queries to Dennis had nothing to do with whether he knew about the event or not. I was simply inquiring if he would have come out.
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Old 09-04-2010   #23
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I was wondering last night if ZR-1 members in other regions were reading this embarrassing petty crap going on between those in NW region and those mighty ones of power in our Executive branch who demand strict adherence to every detail of the rule book even tho some of us don't know them.
I also wondered if we in NW Region were being punished because Jeff Flint was involved in what some feel was our stupid mistake... even if it was caused by Jeff. He paid for his mistakes...NOW, get rid of the "punish bad Jeff" crap and get on with productive things.
From some of the executive's comments I've been reading you'd get the impression they were comanding officers or heads of large corporations; not leaders of a social organization.
We the Registry members are not your minions
I''ve seen too many Corvette clubs go down the tubes because political factions destroyed them. PLEASE, NOT HERE
Is all this petty bickering with things like... he said, or I said or rule 31 said, or it was not a formal event, published to all members, or will he attend. etc, going to be the demise of what we all wanted when we first started this group?
I wasn't invited to the outlawed gathering at Jeff's house...maybe because I never attended one in the past and he/they knew I wouldn't attend this one...who gives a sh3t. It's not a failure of any importance.

It's time we have an attitude adjustment by OUR all powerful executives.
Examine why we exist and what you as leaders should be doing to help the group vs. exerting your authority and tearing us apart.

Tact is the art of making a point without making an enemy

Let's resolve to forget yesterday and move on as a group of friends helping one another.

If you don't want to be a team member/player then move on to another sport.

PLEASE, Enuff is Enuff

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Old 09-04-2010   #24
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I was wondering last night if ZR-1 members in other regions were reading this embarrassing petty crap going on between those in NW region and those mighty ones of power in our Executive branch who demand strict adherence to every detail of the rule book even tho some of us don't know them.
I also wondered if we in NW Region were being punished because Jeff Flint was involved in what some feel was our stupid mistake... even if it was caused by Jeff. He paid for his mistakes...NOW, get rid of the "punish bad Jeff" crap and get on with productive things.
From some of the executive's comments I've been reading you'd get the impression they were comanding officers or heads of large corporations; not leaders of a social organization.
We the Registry members are not your minions
I''ve seen too many Corvette clubs go down the tubes because political factions destroyed them. PLEASE, NOT HERE
Is all this petty bickering with things like... he said, or I said or rule 31 said, or it was not a formal event, published to all members, or will he attend. etc, going to be the demise of what we all wanted when we first started this group?
I wasn't invited to the outlawed gathering at Jeff's house...maybe because I never attended one in the past and he/they knew I wouldn't attend this one...who gives a sh3t. It's not a failure of any importance.

It's time we have an attitude adjustment by OUR all powerful executives.
Examine why we exist and what you as leaders should be doing to help the group vs. exerting your authority and tearing us apart.

Tact is the art of making a point without making an enemy

Let's resolve to forget yesterday and move on as a group of friends helping one another.

If you don't want to be a team member/player then move on to another sport.

PLEASE, Enuff is Enuff

Well said. We need your energy on the Board. Any interest in being nominated for president?
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Old 09-04-2010   #25
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Well said. We need your energy on the Board. Any interest in being nominated for president?=D>
Wish I could be of service but with my age and health I best stay on the sidelines offering support in any positive way I might feel appropriate. Thanks for the nice words
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Old 09-05-2010   #26
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Bill:

When you took time out of what you were doing this year in BG to help me with my tire and when my MSD box failed and the Idaho and South Dakota brothers hung in with me to help get my car going I realized more than ever it is OTHERS above SELF...

You are always in service to others before yourself and for that I commend you!!! If only we all had this spirit...

I am way over this act...lets move on a learn from it.
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Old 09-05-2010   #27
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Bill:

When you took time out of what you were doing this year in BG to help me with my tire and when my MSD box failed and the Idaho and South Dakota brothers hung in with me to help get my car going I realized more than ever it is OTHERS above SELF...
You are always in service to others before yourself and for that I commend you!!! If only we all had this spirit...
I am way over this act...lets move on a learn from it.
Thanks for those very kind words but I assure you that I've recieved more acts of kindness and service from others than I'll ever be able to repay. I have memories of it starting in the late 1930s with my familiy's demonstrating their practice of "Give, and ye shall receive"
My life has resulted in more accomplishments than I ever dreamed possible all because of help from others.

Another subject; I really want you to be our treasurer. You will bring much needed expertise to the position. Thanks for agreeing to be our candidate.
Did you ever get my drooling spots rubbed off your outstanding toy that I left when we had it at JVD's?
If I hadn't spent so much time admiring your Vette we'd have been better prepared for the BBQ that night
Best regards, Bill
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Old 09-06-2010   #28
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I was wondering last night if ZR-1 members in other regions were reading this embarrassing petty crap going on between those in NW region and those mighty ones of power in our Executive branch who demand strict adherence to every detail of the rule book even tho some of us don't know them.
Bingo!

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I also wondered if we in NW Region were being punished because Jeff Flint was involved in what some feel was our stupid mistake... even if it was caused by Jeff.
That's EXACTLY what is going on. Make no mistake about it; this issue involves personal vendettas.

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He paid for his mistakes...NOW, get rid of the "punish bad Jeff" crap and get on with productive things...
He paid, all right, and apparently, he continues to "pay."

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From some of the executive's comments I've been reading you'd get the impression they were comanding officers or heads of large corporations; not leaders of a social organization.
We the Registry members are not your minions.
Excellent point, Bill. Arrogance reigns supreme here, in some examples.

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I''ve seen too many Corvette clubs go down the tubes because political factions destroyed them. PLEASE, NOT HERE
Is all this petty bickering with things like... he said, or I said or rule 31 said, or it was not a formal event, published to all members, or will he attend. etc, going to be the demise of what we all wanted when we first started this group?
Maybe so!

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It's time we have an attitude adjustment by OUR all powerful executives.
Amen, Bill. I'd vote for cleaning out the entire Board, and replacing them with fresh people, not just shuffling them around to different positions. Unfortunately, being that this is a "volunteer" organization, its hard to find people who have the time, energy, and inclination to serve.
Wait: If you volunteer, and are paid, are you still a volunteer?

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Examine why we exist and what you as leaders should be doing to help the group vs. exerting your authority and tearing us apart.
Well said!
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Old 09-06-2010   #29
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All,
How goes the Battle? I really don't know what the issues are but it is about getting together of ZR1 owners, networking & having fun. I don't have no issues with anyone or any ZR1. If you are not on the distro list go to http://pnwzr1.net request to be added to the e-mail list. Lets move on & let NorthWest region be the best & the most active of folks in the ZR1 community. I will be cruising by Lake Washington & the Space Needle today in the Seattle Area.

Manfred E.......
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Bingo!


That's EXACTLY what is going on. Make no mistake about it; this issue involves personal vendettas.


He paid, all right, and apparently, he continues to "pay."


Excellent point, Bill. Arrogance reigns supreme here, in some examples.


Maybe so!


Amen, Bill. I'd vote for cleaning out the entire Board, and replacing them with fresh people, not just shuffling them around to different positions. Unfortunately, being that this is a "volunteer" organization, its hard to find people who have the time, energy, and inclination to serve.
Wait: If you volunteer, and are paid, are you still a volunteer?


Well said!
Great points Nick. Until the current Board is cleaned out and replaced the vendetta against Jeff will continue to fester.
What are you referring to when you ask "If you volunteer, and are paid, are you still a volunteer?" ?
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