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todesengel · 05-06-2010

http://www.nbcbayarea.com/news/local...-92945969.html

Students Kicked Off Campus for Wearing American Flag Tees
Freedom of expression or cultural disrespect on Cinco de Mayo?
By GEORGE KIRIYAMA
Updated 6:26 AM PDT, Thu, May 6, 2010

NBC Bay Area On any other day at Live Oak High School in Morgan Hill, Daniel Galli and his four friends would not even be noticed for wearing T-shirts with the American flag. But Cinco de Mayo is not any typical day especially on a campus with a large Mexican American student population.

Galli says he and his friends were sitting at a table during brunch break when the vice principal asked two of the boys to remove American flag bandannas that they wearing on their heads and for the others to turn their American flag T-shirts inside out. When they refused, the boys were ordered to go to the principal's office.

"They said we could wear it on any other day," Daniel Galli said, "but today is sensitive to Mexican-Americans because it's supposed to be their holiday so we were not allowed to wear it today."

The boys said the administrators called their T-shirts "incendiary" that would lead to fights on campus.

"They said if we tried to go back to class with our shirts not taken off, they said it was defiance and we would get suspended," Dominic Maciel, Galli's friend, said.

The boys really had no choice, and went home to avoid suspension. They say they're angry they were not allowed to express their American pride. Their parents are just as upset, calling what happened to their children, "total nonsense."

"I think it's absolutely ridiculous," Julie Fagerstrom, Maciel's mom, said. "All they were doing was displaying their patriotic nature. They're expressing their individuality."

But to many Mexican-American students at Live Oak, this was a big deal. They say they were offended by the five boys and others for wearing American colors on a Mexican holiday.

"I think they should apologize cause it is a Mexican Heritage Day," Annicia Nunez, a Live Oak High student, said. "We don't deserve to be get disrespected like that. We wouldn't do that on Fourth of July."

As for an apology, the boys and their families say, "fat chance."

"I'm not going to apologize. I did nothing wrong," Galli said. "I went along with my normal day. I might have worn an American flag, but I'm an American and I'm proud to be an American."

The five boys and their families met with a Morgan Hill Unified School District official Wednesday night. The district released a statement saying it does not agree with how Live Oak High School administrators handled this incident.

The boys will not be suspended and they were told they can go back to school Thursday. They may even wear their red, white, and blue colors again, but this time, the day after Cinco de Mayo, there will be no controversy.

In this country, what have we become?

FU · 05-06-2010

DISGRACEFUL !

GOLDCYLON · 05-06-2010

Total BS

FU · 05-06-2010

E mail the principal :

Nick.Boden@mhu.k12.ca.us <Nick.Boden@mhu.k12.ca.us>

I did !!

bdw18_123 · 05-07-2010

That is absolute, total and utter BS!

I swear, people are getting dumber by the day...

Hey, guess what? This is AMERICA not f**king MEXICO!!

What do you think would happen if you went to a Mexican school in Mexico on July 4th and told everyone there that they could not wear or display the Mexican flag on that day? You would get laughed right out of the country, that's what would happen!

We are in the U.S.A, we can display the USA flag whenever the hell we want, on whatever day we want. If someone doesn't like it, too damn bad, go back to your own country if you get butthurt that easy.

DaveK · 05-07-2010

Sadly I've seen this before back in England. There was a guy there a few years ago who mounted a british flag on his house. The city told him he had to take it down because it was 'racist'.

Presumably the people likely to be 'offended' (or their parents) choose to live in the US? Well part of living in a country is recognising that this is your new home, country and alliegance. If you don't accept that, then stay where you are.

It doesn't matter what the country is - if you choose to live there then you should respect that culture. If you don't, why the hell would you want to move there? (and more to the point, why should that culture welcome you or tolerate you?).

PC gone mad.

05-06-2010	#1
todesengel Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: O'Fallon, Mo Posts: 738	This made my stomach turn http://www.nbcbayarea.com/news/local...-92945969.html Students Kicked Off Campus for Wearing American Flag Tees Freedom of expression or cultural disrespect on Cinco de Mayo? By GEORGE KIRIYAMA Updated 6:26 AM PDT, Thu, May 6, 2010 NBC Bay Area On any other day at Live Oak High School in Morgan Hill, Daniel Galli and his four friends would not even be noticed for wearing T-shirts with the American flag. But Cinco de Mayo is not any typical day especially on a campus with a large Mexican American student population. Galli says he and his friends were sitting at a table during brunch break when the vice principal asked two of the boys to remove American flag bandannas that they wearing on their heads and for the others to turn their American flag T-shirts inside out. When they refused, the boys were ordered to go to the principal's office. "They said we could wear it on any other day," Daniel Galli said, "but today is sensitive to Mexican-Americans because it's supposed to be their holiday so we were not allowed to wear it today." The boys said the administrators called their T-shirts "incendiary" that would lead to fights on campus. "They said if we tried to go back to class with our shirts not taken off, they said it was defiance and we would get suspended," Dominic Maciel, Galli's friend, said. The boys really had no choice, and went home to avoid suspension. They say they're angry they were not allowed to express their American pride. Their parents are just as upset, calling what happened to their children, "total nonsense." "I think it's absolutely ridiculous," Julie Fagerstrom, Maciel's mom, said. "All they were doing was displaying their patriotic nature. They're expressing their individuality." But to many Mexican-American students at Live Oak, this was a big deal. They say they were offended by the five boys and others for wearing American colors on a Mexican holiday. "I think they should apologize cause it is a Mexican Heritage Day," Annicia Nunez, a Live Oak High student, said. "We don't deserve to be get disrespected like that. We wouldn't do that on Fourth of July." As for an apology, the boys and their families say, "fat chance." "I'm not going to apologize. I did nothing wrong," Galli said. "I went along with my normal day. I might have worn an American flag, but I'm an American and I'm proud to be an American." The five boys and their families met with a Morgan Hill Unified School District official Wednesday night. The district released a statement saying it does not agree with how Live Oak High School administrators handled this incident. The boys will not be suspended and they were told they can go back to school Thursday. They may even wear their red, white, and blue colors again, but this time, the day after Cinco de Mayo, there will be no controversy. In this country, what have we become?

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FU Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Found Member Posts: 4,346	Re: This made my stomach turn DISGRACEFUL !

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05-06-2010	#4
FU Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Found Member Posts: 4,346	Re: This made my stomach turn E mail the principal : Nick.Boden@mhu.k12.ca.us <Nick.Boden@mhu.k12.ca.us> I did !!

05-07-2010	#5
bdw18_123 Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Prather, CA Posts: 809	Re: This made my stomach turn That is absolute, total and utter BS! I swear, people are getting dumber by the day... Hey, guess what? This is AMERICA not f**king MEXICO!! What do you think would happen if you went to a Mexican school in Mexico on July 4th and told everyone there that they could not wear or display the Mexican flag on that day? You would get laughed right out of the country, that's what would happen! We are in the U.S.A, we can display the USA flag whenever the hell we want, on whatever day we want. If someone doesn't like it, too damn bad, go back to your own country if you get butthurt that easy. __________________ [IMG]http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a292/bdw18_123/_zr1netforumsigphoto.jpg[/IMG][B] 1990 Corvette ZR-1 [/B][I] White/Flame Red, #2299, mostly stock, 144K miles.[/I] -Cams timed to the '93-'95 405HP LT5 stock timing. -IAT sensor relocated to below front bumper. -Haibeck hoops installed in airduct. -OBX cat-back exhaust. [COLOR=DarkRed][B](SOLD - December 2012 [/B][/COLOR][COLOR=DarkRed][B]:hello:)[/B][/COLOR] 1993 Corvette Coupe Black/Black, 6-speed (SOLD - October 2009 :hello:)

05-07-2010	#6
DaveK Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Sudbury, Ontario. Canada Posts: 1,540	Re: This made my stomach turn Sadly I've seen this before back in England. There was a guy there a few years ago who mounted a british flag on his house. The city told him he had to take it down because it was 'racist'. Presumably the people likely to be 'offended' (or their parents) choose to live in the US? Well part of living in a country is recognising that this is your new home, country and alliegance. If you don't accept that, then stay where you are. It doesn't matter what the country is - if you choose to live there then you should respect that culture. If you don't, why the hell would you want to move there? (and more to the point, why should that culture welcome you or tolerate you?). PC gone mad. __________________ 1991 #1516 Black/Black davidmkelly.com Author of fast-paced, sci-fi thrillers.