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Old 04-20-2009   #21
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Driver side is removed and the ROOM now.. WOW..
Yeah thats what I thought too Jeff, lots of room and you can now see the steering assembly rod clearly.
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Old 04-20-2009   #22
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Passenger header in but not tight yet.. I think the end of my dipstick tube is goobered up so I Want to look for a replacement

know of a source?

I dont think Jerry made these so Im going have to say Jeff Flint would be a best resource bet.
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Old 04-20-2009   #23
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Thanks GC.. I will wait to catch Jeff on IM or when he gets back home
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Old 04-20-2009   #24
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Thanks GC.. I will wait to catch Jeff on IM or when he gets back home

Im sure he has the new seal you may need and can FIND you the tube if its available anywhere in the system. He just found me a replacement dipstick.
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Old 04-20-2009   #25
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Im sure he has the new seal you may need and can FIND you the tube if its available anywhere in the system. He just found me a replacement dipstick.
Oh I have a new seal.. just need the tube
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Old 06-30-2009   #26
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How many little screws on each side for the HEat shield?

I see 4 ont he driver side.. that it?

How many screws is there?? What MM
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How many screws is there?? What MM
I think 4 or 5 QTY , size is 8mm or 7mm I forget

the heat shields on the manifolds themselves will not need to come off, but the Cat Heat shields will
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Old 06-30-2009   #29
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Been there done that. And the worst manifold bolt to remove is the one on the driver side right above where the steering linkege goes into the rubber piece that connects to the steering rack. You can't reach it with your hands or even see it without a swivel mirror. I used a gear wrench on it and only having enough room to turn maybe 10 degrees at a time with 15 to 20 revolutions to go. But thats the only one that really was a problem. It took me 1 1/2 hours to remove it. My hands took a beating on that one.

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Old 07-01-2009   #30
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Like someone said, no matter which side you do first, that will be the harder one. (Ya wind up learning a lot about it on the first one!) It took me a day to get the driver's side off, but that includes 3, 20-mile round trips to town (I live in the country) for various tools I didn't have or had lost at some point.

In the end, I didn't need to remove the drivers side wheel panels, but definitely DID need to on the passenger's side. No big deal at all tho.

I spent a lot of time trying to get the shields out on the first one, but realized on the second one that the two clam-shell pieces don't have to come out - just loosened so they can be moved out of the way to access the bolts.

My tool list is pretty short.

10mm short socket, 3/8" drive
10mm short socket, 1/4" drive
8mm short socket, 1/4" drive
6" 1/4 drive ratchet handle w/ socket locking feature
various 1/4" drive extensions 2", 4", 6"
3" and a 12" 3/8" drive extensions
6" standard screw driver
a telescoping magnet tool retriever (I drop stuff and it always finds nooks and crannies to hide in!)
10, 13, and a 15mm open-end wrench with a ratchet box end on the opposite end of the wrench(!)
swivels (knuckles) for both the 1/4 and 3/8 drives (and tape them so they stay relatively straight and don't flop around)
Some penetrating oil (WD40) for rusted shield bolts, etc.
Never Seize (for the head bolts)
Brake cleaner (to wash the dirt and grit out of the head bolt holes)
A couple drop lights and I found a little LED "flashlight" came in handy to illuminate a few elusive header bolts (e.g. the front-top bolt on the passenger side).

A lift might have been nice, but frankly, I found myself alternating from topside to under quite a bit. Being able to eliminate the trips would have helped a lot (and part of the solution on the second one too, I might add.).

I didn't have to remove the center section of the A.I.R. piping on the driver's side, but did have to on the passenger's side. In retrospect, I would say the passenger side was harder to do - had to remove the fender panels and that center section of the A.I.R. piping, and had to work around the loosened heat shields (they wouldn't come out).

One thing is for certain...Installing the new (SW) headers was a dream...So much room! I had no clearance issues with my SW headers - including the infamous steering shaft. Easiest headers I ever installed, I think. (Tho I did not install all the bolts as the curve of the pipes prevented it in a few cases. Besides, there were several omitted from the factory as well. I just installed as many as I could - which in the end was more than the factory did.)

I WILL need to round up an O2 extension for the passenger side for the SW headers. I intended to install bungs on the top of the SWs, but had some issues and ended up using the port and starbord bungs that came w/ the headers...Oh, well.

Not a bad job - installing the headers - just a "bit" more tedious than some, and would definitely be easier the second time around!

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