'94 ZR-1 Sold on Cars & Bids in October-commentary - Page 4 - ZR-1 Net Registry Forums

DRM500RUBYZR-1 · 02-11-2022

Rick,
Not sure what else "looking at it" would reveal.
It is a lower mile car so it SHOULD look good.

There is no escaping the cost of going through it in order to again make it road ready. The basic things must be done and you have an idea of the cost.

An inspection will not yield clues to any of the unknowns with what is essentially a barn find from a nicer barn.

I don't comment on prices of private owner vehicles.
However, the "value" of a low mile 94 is somewhat known.
Subtract from that number the estimated repair costs, and that would be the high target price.
Although with the unknowns, a further adjustment must be considered.

It would be far less of a gamble to fall in love with a well kept and maintained running car with full records from, ideally a Registry private party, most of whom would take great pains to make sure that you would know EXACTLY what you are getting.
There are dozens of nice sorted-out cars at all price levels that offer far more of a chance of avoiding the unknown.

Without knowing your potential real cost you are turning toy buying into a casino game. You might win, but..................

Often the car that seems like a "deal" may not be.

So again, back to the question you have to ask yourself.
"Do I feel lucky?"

Best wishes for a successful search and find!

Marty

RA42 · 02-11-2022

Thanks Marty. Just trying to do my homework. I totally understand the mechanicals will go to MH and in my head have planned a placeholder on that cost. What I have now concluded is what the pictures don't show me regarding the paint, which admittedly concerns me as there is a ding in the fiberglass on the outer drivers door sill. I prefer not to repaint either A low mile example is a requirement of mine. Short of extreme low mile examples which I can not justify the price of at this moment (my only real data points are recent prices at auctions etc for sub 5k mile cars)this hits where I want with the exception being it is a barn find. On the flip side, someone needs to preserve this car right? Or at the very least bring it back to an operating life. All things being considered the gentleman selling it is certainly not thinking of it as a "barn find" of a vehicle that has yet to undergo significant appreciation...which it may or may not. He definitely has a very lofty opinion of the value. So I am just wanting to be fair but not stupid either and as a newbie I will probably end up being the later.

I have considered asking the community for leads on a car but suspect the price will require budget approval from my bride. If this car can be bought fairly then I can swing that without much fanfare and then pay for the repairs as it comes with MH. In other words too big of a check at once will get me the death stare....

Really appreciate you taking the time to help me.

Rick

viper107 · 02-11-2022

ther is a nice black 94 on ebay ready to go..........................

RA42 · 02-11-2022

Thanks. That will get the death stare, but I still enjoy looking....

Rick

KJL · 03-02-2022

That perception that the cars are difficult to work on is correct and some engine/drive train parts are not just hard to find...in some cases simply don't exist anymore.

AirbusDriver · 03-04-2022

93 ZR1 with less than 1,000 miles just sold for 86K plus the juice on BaT.

Subfixer · 03-04-2022

A 93 flood car sold on Copart for North of 17K. More than I was willing to spend.

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spork2367 · 03-05-2022

Quote:

Originally Posted by AirbusDriver

93 ZR1 with less than 1,000 miles just sold for 86K plus the juice on BaT.

Probably the rarest production C4 in existence, a sub 1k 93 anniversary edition zr-1. Not surprised in the price, but the market appears to be cooling. I think mid to late last year it would have broke 100k.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Subfixer

A 93 flood car sold on Copart for North of 17K. More than I was willing to spend.

Sent from my Pixel 4a (5G) using ZR-1 Net Registry mobile app

That's just idiocy.

viper107 · 03-05-2022

Those ruby z cars for some reason are stunning in person to look at

Meanmyz · 03-08-2022

Quote:

Originally Posted by viper107

Those ruby z cars for some reason are stunning in person to look at

If the paint has been correctly cared for, they ARE stunning and the pictures on BAT highlight that. On the other hand, I have seen 40th Anniversary cars that didn't age very well at all.

Crazy for $86,000. Is that a new market high?

02-11-2022	#31
DRM500RUBYZR-1 Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Mullica Hill, New Jersey Posts: 2,593	Re: '94 ZR-1 Sold on Cars & Bids in October-commentary Rick, Not sure what else "looking at it" would reveal. It is a lower mile car so it SHOULD look good. There is no escaping the cost of going through it in order to again make it road ready. The basic things must be done and you have an idea of the cost. An inspection will not yield clues to any of the unknowns with what is essentially a barn find from a nicer barn. I don't comment on prices of private owner vehicles. However, the "value" of a low mile 94 is somewhat known. Subtract from that number the estimated repair costs, and that would be the high target price. Although with the unknowns, a further adjustment must be considered. It would be far less of a gamble to fall in love with a well kept and maintained running car with full records from, ideally a Registry private party, most of whom would take great pains to make sure that you would know EXACTLY what you are getting. There are dozens of nice sorted-out cars at all price levels that offer far more of a chance of avoiding the unknown. Without knowing your potential real cost you are turning toy buying into a casino game. You might win, but.................. Often the car that seems like a "deal" may not be. So again, back to the question you have to ask yourself. "Do I feel lucky?" Best wishes for a successful search and find! Marty

02-11-2022	#32
RA42 Join Date: Feb 2022 Location: SC Posts: 11	Re: '94 ZR-1 Sold on Cars & Bids in October-commentary Thanks Marty. Just trying to do my homework. I totally understand the mechanicals will go to MH and in my head have planned a placeholder on that cost. What I have now concluded is what the pictures don't show me regarding the paint, which admittedly concerns me as there is a ding in the fiberglass on the outer drivers door sill. I prefer not to repaint either A low mile example is a requirement of mine. Short of extreme low mile examples which I can not justify the price of at this moment (my only real data points are recent prices at auctions etc for sub 5k mile cars)this hits where I want with the exception being it is a barn find. On the flip side, someone needs to preserve this car right? Or at the very least bring it back to an operating life. All things being considered the gentleman selling it is certainly not thinking of it as a "barn find" of a vehicle that has yet to undergo significant appreciation...which it may or may not. He definitely has a very lofty opinion of the value. So I am just wanting to be fair but not stupid either and as a newbie I will probably end up being the later. I have considered asking the community for leads on a car but suspect the price will require budget approval from my bride. If this car can be bought fairly then I can swing that without much fanfare and then pay for the repairs as it comes with MH. In other words too big of a check at once will get me the death stare.... Really appreciate you taking the time to help me. Rick

02-11-2022	#33
viper107 Join Date: Dec 2019 Location: st louis mo Posts: 749	Re: '94 ZR-1 Sold on Cars & Bids in October-commentary ther is a nice black 94 on ebay ready to go.......................... __________________ 95 admiral blue z(sold)/ / 93 ruby z(sold) 91 steel blue z/95 aqua z haibeck 510, 91 callaway 415 areobody #5

02-11-2022	#34
RA42 Join Date: Feb 2022 Location: SC Posts: 11	Re: '94 ZR-1 Sold on Cars & Bids in October-commentary Thanks. That will get the death stare, but I still enjoy looking.... Rick

03-02-2022	#35
KJL Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Roswell, GA Posts: 234	Re: '94 ZR-1 Sold on Cars & Bids in October-commentary That perception that the cars are difficult to work on is correct and some engine/drive train parts are not just hard to find...in some cases simply don't exist anymore. __________________ 1995 ZR1 #159 Ported,Corsa,4.10 Rear, Dual Disc RAM Clutch, Alum Flywheel, Haibeck Chip, ZFDoc Plates, Relocated Battery 400 rwhp 1992 ZR1 #280 Ported, Locked Secondary's, Flowmaster Exhaust, Haibeck Chip, 375rwhp 1996 Collectors LT4 (Stock) 1972 Convertible 434 Small Block 572 rwhp

03-04-2022	#36
AirbusDriver Join Date: Jul 2016 Location: Harrodsburg, KY Posts: 440	Re: '94 ZR-1 Sold on Cars & Bids in October-commentary 93 ZR1 with less than 1,000 miles just sold for 86K plus the juice on BaT.

03-04-2022	#37
Subfixer Join Date: Sep 2018 Location: Groton, CT Posts: 384	Re: '94 ZR-1 Sold on Cars & Bids in October-commentary A 93 flood car sold on Copart for North of 17K. More than I was willing to spend. Sent from my Pixel 4a (5G) using ZR-1 Net Registry mobile app __________________ 1992 ZR1 #442, 2 tops, White, White, Haibeck 415, 3.90 gear, Coilovers 2018 Audi RS5, 2.9 V6 Twin Turbo, Auto, Black, Black 2021 Audi Q3, 2.0T, 8 spd Tiptronic, Navarro Blue metallic, Pearl Beige

03-05-2022	#39
viper107 Join Date: Dec 2019 Location: st louis mo Posts: 749	Re: '94 ZR-1 Sold on Cars & Bids in October-commentary Those ruby z cars for some reason are stunning in person to look at __________________ 95 admiral blue z(sold)/ / 93 ruby z(sold) 91 steel blue z/95 aqua z haibeck 510, 91 callaway 415 areobody #5