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Z51JEFF · 11-11-2018

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Originally Posted by 32valvesftw

As far as I am concerned the fact that this forum is specific to our cars, is what makes it special.
CF covers all those other Z's, so that is an established client base for CF. Is the expectation that the other Z's will leave CF and join this forum, if so why? How will we differentiate from CF in order to recruit those other members?

It’s easy,CF and all the crap that goes with it or nothing but ZR-1s.

XfireZ51 · 11-11-2018

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Originally Posted by Z51JEFF

It’s easy,CF and all the crap that goes with it or nothing but ZR-1s.

Thx Jeff. Duh, its Only for the ZR Corvette and none other.

32valvZ · 11-11-2018

I think its a good idea... Bringing knowledge to the ZR-1 is not a terrible idea... Theres so much stupidity out there regarding the ZR-1, even from regular Corvette owners that its sickening. Im always fighting with guys on CF about mis-information.

On top of that, everyone always complains about the value of our cars being in the tank. The only thing that will make them more desirable is exposure to them, their history and what they are all about. More people will want them, and theres no more being built, which will drive value.

Id venture to say that people who can afford a ZR1, can also afford a ZR-1...

efnfast · 11-12-2018

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Originally Posted by Dynomite

Paying members help with $s

Do we have a $$ issue?

DRM500RUBYZR-1 · 11-12-2018

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Originally Posted by efnfast

Do we have a $$ issue?

I do not believe there to be any current money issue, based on looking at the financials.

However, although membership is trending upward, which is certainly good, the alarming trend is the atrophy of forum traffic.

Until recently when the historical trends were updated, it revealed a significant drop in forum traffic from years ago.
That trend is nothing short of alarming.

Couple that with the certainty that newer ZR-1 owners will indeed want a place of their own, take a moment and think that through.

They may opt to open an all inclusive ZR-1, ZR1 forum that COULD eventually cannibalize this forum membership.

Why take the chance?

It has been duly noted that many of our members also own newer ZR-1's.
That trend will grow as prices on the newer ones, particularly, the C-6 versions, continue to fall to irresistible bargain levels.

Currently we have the high ground, but that position is not guaranteed.

More members, more traffic, more ideas, more interest, as well as protection of our pioneering effort are all good things.

Dilution is less of a problem than extinction, and there is no real threat of reduction of C-4 interest, just an expansion of the people coming here, participating in ZR-1, ZR1, information.

Marty

Reichert · 11-12-2018

What I hear from this and related discussions is a concern that participation and engagement in the Registry is on the decline, and strategies like broadening the user base with a wider range of Corvette owners can be used to counteract that trend.

From my perspective, inviting more people in to the current system would not scale at all, and would exacerbate problems that are only manageable due to the relatively low volume of activity currently on the site. I think it's fair to say that we love this site primarily because of the people involved - their love of their cars, and the experience, wisdom, and practical help and advice everyone is so generous to share with each other. We don't love it because of the technology that is in use and the information management systems in place. More to the point, the "Registry" aspect of this site is hidden behind a members login and is for all intents and purposes unusable.

I see a huge opportunity currently missed in the namesake of the site. Where we employ technology to provide a rich set of tools to curate the story of our cars, while continuing to foster the spirit of community that is at the heart of the organization.

Imagine if we had a Registry where as a ZR-1 owner, I could:

Claim my car(s), and curate a home page for each of them (think Zillow or Redfin for real estate)
Add service record logs and photos
See a timeline of services that span across ownership, with highlights on common and important services for our cars, e.g. replaced injectors for early models.
Earn badges for "achievements" or high value modifications specific to the ZR-1. e.g. the "Haibeck 510" badge

That should all be public and available without a membership, so we can gather as much data as possible on every car, while driving more traffic to the site and hopefully enticing more owners toward membership.

Further, as a registry member, I could:

Submit help requests that are linked to an issue tracking system, where other members can help troubleshoot in a structured way that maintains a history of help provided for each car.
Offer the car for sale, with facilities to help broker the transaction. Buying a car through the registry includes a built-in 1-year Registry membership.

Those are just some examples of possible features off the top of my head - I'm sure you all can think of many more.

As Kenny said earlier, there are only about 7000 possible records for this Registry. Each of them has a unique history, and many of them have been carefully maintained for over 25 years. Let's make the ownership experience special. Now you have something to build on where you can invite in more generations of ZRs and their owners.

rush91 · 11-12-2018

I love the uniqueness of this site, because of the rarity of our ZR-1s....but correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't this the only site dedicated solely to the C4 ZR-1?? So if another site starts up, including all years ZR1, why be upset that they are all inclusive and we are not?? My 2 cents is this should stay an exclusive site.

If $$ coming into the group is an issue, then we should think about how to promote our cars more, not adding other Generations for income. search Youtube and it's a shame how few videos there are of any LT5....The more that is out there, the more people will see.

Another idea I saw earlier was getting the whole run of our cars on here. Of 6900 cars built, someone said only around 600 have been registered here.... Then where are the rest? An effort could be made to reach out to those not aware of the site, but how is beyond me. Again I think promotion needs to be more.

I'm just thinking out loud, giving my opinion. But I do love this site and members, one of the main reasons I bought my car. The knowledge and support from all of you.......Either way I will still be a member. Oh and I don't want to come to this site everyday and see C6 ZR1 boards! I want one of those so bad, it would be torture lol.

Dynomite · 11-12-2018

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Originally Posted by TX '90 ZR1

I admit I have not thought about it enough to have a clue how to go about it!

If I recall correctly, there were just shy of 7000 C4 ZR-1's built. How many are still intact? I have no clue, but I would venture a guess of half or more.

We currently have a membership of 600 give or take?

How about an agressive campaign to get those other C4 ZR-1's in our fold?

Shouldn't be a hard sell. Way more value here than the price of admission.

I concur with Kenny......rather than dilute the Forum, stick with what we have now and expand by research involving the whereabouts of the 7000 C4 ZR-1s built and the whereabouts of the associated owners. I am sure many have no clue this Forum exists

Having no clue this Forum exists actually may have caused excessive selling driving down prices as a result of not knowing how to maintain/modify the C4 ZR-1s

And not knowing where to go (except the dealer) when something needs fixing

The Dealer often knows less about fixing the C4 ZR-1 than most of us on this forum

RussMcB · 11-12-2018

Here is the bookmark I use for ZR1.net:

zr1.net/forum/search.php?do=getnew

This site would be much less desirable to me if that URL showed a lot of non C4 posts. So, my vote would be to keep this site limited to C4 ZR-1's.

The Boss · 11-12-2018

Just my 2 cents as the new guy but I tend to agree that we should have current ZR1 owners involved with the site. Not only would it generate more exposure for the C4 Owners but at the end of the day we are all Elite Corvette Owners. Dynomite also makes a great point that there needs to be more done to bring all the current C4 ZR1 owners into the site.

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11-12-2018	#36
Reichert Join Date: Feb 2018 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 104	Re: I know this has been asked before,but............... What I hear from this and related discussions is a concern that participation and engagement in the Registry is on the decline, and strategies like broadening the user base with a wider range of Corvette owners can be used to counteract that trend. From my perspective, inviting more people in to the current system would not scale at all, and would exacerbate problems that are only manageable due to the relatively low volume of activity currently on the site. I think it's fair to say that we love this site primarily because of the people involved - their love of their cars, and the experience, wisdom, and practical help and advice everyone is so generous to share with each other. We don't love it because of the technology that is in use and the information management systems in place. More to the point, the "Registry" aspect of this site is hidden behind a members login and is for all intents and purposes unusable. I see a huge opportunity currently missed in the namesake of the site. Where we employ technology to provide a rich set of tools to curate the story of our cars, while continuing to foster the spirit of community that is at the heart of the organization. Imagine if we had a Registry where as a ZR-1 owner, I could: Claim my car(s), and curate a home page for each of them (think Zillow or Redfin for real estate) Add service record logs and photos See a timeline of services that span across ownership, with highlights on common and important services for our cars, e.g. replaced injectors for early models. Earn badges for "achievements" or high value modifications specific to the ZR-1. e.g. the "Haibeck 510" badge That should all be public and available without a membership, so we can gather as much data as possible on every car, while driving more traffic to the site and hopefully enticing more owners toward membership. Further, as a registry member, I could: Submit help requests that are linked to an issue tracking system, where other members can help troubleshoot in a structured way that maintains a history of help provided for each car. Offer the car for sale, with facilities to help broker the transaction. Buying a car through the registry includes a built-in 1-year Registry membership. Those are just some examples of possible features off the top of my head - I'm sure you all can think of many more. As Kenny said earlier, there are only about 7000 possible records for this Registry. Each of them has a unique history, and many of them have been carefully maintained for over 25 years. Let's make the ownership experience special. Now you have something to build on where you can invite in more generations of ZRs and their owners. __________________ -Stephen 1990 #2288

11-12-2018	#37
rush91 Join Date: Feb 2016 Location: Carterville Illinois Posts: 852	Re: I know this has been asked before,but............... I love the uniqueness of this site, because of the rarity of our ZR-1s....but correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't this the only site dedicated solely to the C4 ZR-1?? So if another site starts up, including all years ZR1, why be upset that they are all inclusive and we are not?? My 2 cents is this should stay an exclusive site. If $$ coming into the group is an issue, then we should think about how to promote our cars more, not adding other Generations for income. search Youtube and it's a shame how few videos there are of any LT5....The more that is out there, the more people will see. Another idea I saw earlier was getting the whole run of our cars on here. Of 6900 cars built, someone said only around 600 have been registered here.... Then where are the rest? An effort could be made to reach out to those not aware of the site, but how is beyond me. Again I think promotion needs to be more. I'm just thinking out loud, giving my opinion. But I do love this site and members, one of the main reasons I bought my car. The knowledge and support from all of you.......Either way I will still be a member. Oh and I don't want to come to this site everyday and see C6 ZR1 boards! I want one of those so bad, it would be torture lol.

11-12-2018	#39
RussMcB Join Date: Jan 2015 Location: Marietta, GA USA Posts: 1,160	Re: I know this has been asked before,but............... Here is the bookmark I use for ZR1.net: zr1.net/forum/search.php?do=getnew This site would be much less desirable to me if that URL showed a lot of non C4 posts. So, my vote would be to keep this site limited to C4 ZR-1's.

11-12-2018	#40
The Boss Join Date: Sep 2018 Location: OH Posts: 14	Re: I know this has been asked before,but............... Just my 2 cents as the new guy but I tend to agree that we should have current ZR1 owners involved with the site. Not only would it generate more exposure for the C4 Owners but at the end of the day we are all Elite Corvette Owners. Dynomite also makes a great point that there needs to be more done to bring all the current C4 ZR1 owners into the site.