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02-08-2018 | #43 |
Join Date: Nov 2011
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Re: Fidanza users
You mention Hurst shifter. My shift knob, the nutsert was not tight in the plastic ball and it buzzed? rattled? buzz sawed? I replaced it. It made me drive around with my hand on the shifter which is not good practice, to keep it quite.
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02-08-2018 | #44 | |
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I've got the spring hub disc if you want it. Happy to ship to you on my nickel.. Steve Sent from my XT1585 using ZR-1 Net Registry mobile app |
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02-08-2018 | #45 | |
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02-08-2018 | #46 | |
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02-08-2018 | #47 | |
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Sparks, NV
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So what do we know, at least with my setup. The Fidanza was quiet when you had it and now the same FW in my car and we have noise. That should rule out the flywheel. I’ve installed it with two different transmissions and Throwout bearings. Noise with both setups. That should rule out the trans and the TO bearing. I’m using your PP. You had no noise. That should rule out the PP. So that leaves the disc, a tolerance stacking situation or an alignment problem as Phil pointed out. We might be getting somewhere here. Starting to look like there’s another trans pull in my future. Of note was when I pulled the old pilot bearing out. It was a needle bearing type, so likely already a replacement. What was unusual was that it was sitting slightly crooked in the crank recess. I measured the degree of variation and found it was off by 0.0235in from high to low point. At the time I thought it was simply worn out. Now I’m wondering if it wasn’t an indication of misalignment. Looks like I’ll be going back in.... H
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02-09-2018 | #48 |
Join Date: Aug 2015
Location: Magnolia, Texas
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Re: Fidanza users
If the needle bearing was an issue, I'd expect you would see wear on the pilot shaft, but you've changed transmissions and no change, so nix that thought.. I'll get the clutch disc out to you today Hans.. something's off here (pun not intended!) and we sure need to isolate it..
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02-09-2018 | #49 | |
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Location: Squires (near Ava MO in the Mark Twain N'tl Forest) - Missouri
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Fidanza FW (new when installed) Centerforce sprung hub organic disc (Camaro) Needle bearing type pilot bushing Veleo ZR-1 pressure plate (PP ARP bolts = 1/4"+ longer; drilled and tapped FW for longer bolts) "AutoZone" TO bearing (New w/ PP installed, ~ 21k miles ago) Driveline balanced (FW, main drive shaft w/ yoke w/ new Spicer U-joints) Redline High Shock fully synthetic gear oil (replacing former BMW Castrol) Black Tag ZF (stock) and stock shifter Idle set to 850, LT5 = stock cams. When drivetrain is cold, there is no rattle (neutral w/ clutch engaged) When drivetrain is fully warmed up, there is some gear rattle Gear whine is just perceptible in 1st gear, but exhaust/road noise drowns out any further (black tag type) gear noise in higher gears. In contrast, Ami's Z has Pete's cams. Idle is set at 850, but has noticeable rattle when driveline is cold, but noise becomes worse. Both cars have just perceptible gear whine when cruising in 6th gear. I posted this video of my car as a reference - as I'm by the experiences some of y'all are reporting. This is the only video I have of the car idling, configured as noted (above). Temp was in the teens. Gear rattle is non-existent. Note: The engine was fully up to temp, but the the driveline was cold (teens ºF) as the car was allowed to idle (i.e., NOT driven first). https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y1YFa8ruh8A
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02-09-2018 | #50 |
Join Date: May 2007
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Re: Fidanza users
My Fidanza setup is made up of:
1. Stock TO bearing 2. Valeo PP 3. Centerforce Sprung Hub LT1 disk. Prior to that, OEM Camaro sprung hub. 4. Brass pilot bearing 5. Amsoil Manual Trans Synchro fluid 6. Hurst short throw shifter 7. A custom tune which I believe mitigates the rattle. Smoother idle and running minimize the gear rattle. My motor has Dr. Greekenstein’s Intake and Exhaust cams. Idle is ~ 925rpm. No rattle w cold trans. Gear rattle is there in Neutral. Loudness depends on how hot trans fluid is. No rattle or whine in any gear including 6th gear and lower rpms (12-1300rpm).
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