Sometimes I wonder...

[XfireZ51]

Sometime I wonder what goes through the mind of some of these hotshots.
As an example, I was driving the ZR earlier today as I was doing some
datalogging. Low and behold up from behind comes a rather nasty sounding
5.0L Coyote Mustang. So he pulls up next to me and gives me a quick snap of the throttle while he's in neutral. The wxhaust note is pretty nasty sounding.
So sometimes I wonder, does he know what the ZR-1 moniker means?
But what I really wonder about is what does this guy in the 5.0 think, after demonstrating his nasty Coyote motor, that this 25 year old C4 Corvette decides to just jump in behind to stalk him. Hmmm.

[mjn76]

1995 stock Zr-1
405hp
385 lb/ft tq
2016 stock mustang gt
435hp
400lb/ft tq

add an exhaust and a cold air intake and I bet he was thinkin "I bet I can take him"
20 years unfortunately goes a long way

[XfireZ51]

Originally Posted by mjn76

1995 stock Zr-1
405hp
385 lb/ft tq
2016 stock mustang gt
435hp
400lb/ft tq

add an exhaust and a cold air intake and I bet he was thinkin "I bet I can take him"
20 years unfortunately goes a long way

Well if he was thinking that, he would be very wrong.
Frankly, I think he was just snorting and clearing his exhaust in the face of a lowly 25 year old C4 Corvette. I thought I would get into his rearview mirror and give him something to wonder about.

[Z51JEFF]

Ive had a few of those in the past. I might not beat it but he definitely will remember that lowly C4 NOT gettin smoked.

[XfireZ51]

Originally Posted by Z51JEFF

Ive had a few of those in the past. I might not beat it but he definitely will remember that lowly C4 NOT gettin smoked.

Well what I know that the guy in the mustang doesn't is that I beat the numbers mjn posted for Mustang. Except I beat them at the rear wheels and not at the crank.

[mjn76]

never hurts to have that ace up the sleeve.

[XfireZ51]

Originally Posted by mjn76

never hurts to have that ace up the sleeve.

I had the Z06 NPP exhaust valves closed at that point. I love sleepers.

[Billy Mild]

The thing is the ZR-1 was king of the time, but a new mustang with a tune and full exhaust will hand us our lunch.

We have to have some serious mods to compete with new cars. Its just a fact and part of the game. I will say I beat a full bolt on 2003 Mach 1 a few years ago in my close to stock ZR-1. He thought I had a stock C4 LTx. When I popped the hood he was amazed at the engine. He had never seen one in person.

[XfireZ51]

If u start out w a decent ZR-1 w an initial investment of 15-18k, do your own top end porting and exhaust, possibly a SM FW, you are now at about 470chp for a total investment of say 21k.
Add cams and head porting for another 3-5k, and you have a ~540chp for
roughly 25k total. And that's staying w stock displacement.
Another alternative would be to go w Pete's Closed Deck mod from the start w that same 15-18k stock car, and now u r in 600chp territory for about
the same total 25k investment. An incredible performance bargain and less than half of a stock Coyote Mustang.

[Vette73]

Originally Posted by XfireZ51

If u start out w a decent ZR-1 w an initial investment of 15-18k, do your own top end porting and exhaust, possibly a SM FW, you are now at about 470chp for a total investment of say 21k.
Add cams and head porting for another 3-5k, and you have a ~540chp for
roughly 25k total. And that's staying w stock displacement.
Another alternative would be to go w Pete's Closed Deck mod from the start w that same 15-18k stock car, and now u r in 600chp territory for about
the same total 25k investment. An incredible performance bargain and less than half of a stock Coyote Mustang.

Some ZR-1s w top end porting,headers and exhaust can even be had for mid to upper teens......Go to the next step, head porting and cams and you have over 500 HP barely breaking the 20K price...
Tough to find that in other used cars today.....

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