Also changing to 4.10 gears this winter - ZR-1 Net Registry Forums

Jagdpanzer · 12-04-2007

Like some of you other guys I'm also considering changing from stock to 4.10 gears this winter. Seems like there are several possible sources for 4.10 ring and pinion sets these days. Not sure how they all rate though. I donâ€™t want to end up with a howler just to save a few pennies. Any opinions out there on how aftermarket suppliers like Precision, Yukon and Richmond stack up against OEM gears from Dana in terms of quality, noise and strength? It is my understanding the Dana 44 HD differential in the ZR-1 has a larger diameter pinion shaft than the Dana 44s found in other applications so not all gear sets you see offered will work in our model Dana 44. I havenâ€™t yet quite figured out how best to go about ordering so Iâ€™m sure to get the right ones. Does anybody know the Dana part number for the 4.10 ring & pinion set we should be using? Also, Iâ€™ve heard where some have used Viper gear sets. What is so special about these? and can you order them online anywhere? Any advice from you more experienced forum members is very much appreciated. I'm from just outside of Washington, DC in NoVA and itâ€™s been a challenge finding a competent shop able to do the set up work. Hope you are in better shape where you are located.

Aurora40 · 12-05-2007

http://forums.corvetteforum.com/show...ht=viper+gears

Has some links for buying the Dodge gears. I seem to recall Marc H. uses Dana gears because they are quieter? Would be better to ask him than to go from my memory though.

HIZNHRZ · 12-05-2007

My ZR1 is in with Marc Haibeck in Chicago. Marc is installing 4:10 gears for me. I have not found the shop in our area to do the install to my satisfaction. Rather than tell you what Marc shared with me, I'd encourage you to get the information direct.

Marc Haibeck [mhaibeck@sbcglobal.net]

blackjack · 12-06-2007

when i changed to 4:10 a few years back,i was told that the viper gear is actually a dana setup sold thru dodge dealer...somebody can confirm this?
at the time ,the price in cdn dollar was outrageous,so i bought my gears from man & machine interface...they have an ad somewhere on the zr1net
bj

Aurora40 · 12-08-2007

Hey Phil,

When you do find a place and have it done, let us know how it turns out. I've been thinking I might go to 3.73:1 gears if I could pull the pumpkin myself and have the gears done locally. Then the smaller gain over 4.10's wouldn't be so bad as they wouldn't be so costly. I personally prefer the long legs of stock, and think 3.73's would be a nice compromise. Plus the speedo gear is easier and much cheaper to correct than with 4.10's.

bldavis11 · 12-09-2007

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Originally Posted by Jagdpanzer

Like some of you other guys I'm also considering changing from stock to 4.10 gears this winter. Seems like there are several possible sources for 4.10 ring and pinion sets these days. Not sure how they all rate though. I donâ€™t want to end up with a howler just to save a few pennies. Any opinions out there on how aftermarket suppliers like Precision, Yukon and Richmond stack up against OEM gears from Dana in terms of quality, noise and strength? It is my understanding the Dana 44 HD differential in the ZR-1 has a larger diameter pinion shaft than the Dana 44s found in other applications so not all gear sets you see offered will work in our model Dana 44. I havenâ€™t yet quite figured out how best to go about ordering so Iâ€™m sure to get the right ones. Does anybody know the Dana part number for the 4.10 ring & pinion set we should be using? Also, Iâ€™ve heard where some have used Viper gear sets. What is so special about these? and can you order them online anywhere? Any advice from you more experienced forum members is very much appreciated. I'm from just outside of Washington, DC in NoVA and itâ€™s been a challenge finding a competent shop able to do the set up work. Hope you are in better shape where you are located.

Check over in the For Sale section down at the bottom of the first page or top of the second. It looks like Jeff is starting a Dana 44 Swap deal. Maybe you're interested?

Cdn ZR1 Mike · 12-29-2007

I've got the Viper 4:10's in mine for the last 6-7 years probably and it has so many 1/4 mile passes I've lost track (previous owner - also my best friend). They are very quiet and no issues thus far.

bradslt5 · 12-29-2007

I have 410s in the blk car but really would like to put 373s in her anyone have 373s that want 410s ?

1720 · 01-14-2008

i used the viper gears from a dodge dealer in texas,something like 250.00
its one of the best things i did to mine!!!

i love'em!!

UKZR1 · 01-21-2008

My 410's are on their way over now (from Haibeck). Will let you know what I think once they are in

12-04-2007	#1
Jagdpanzer Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Northern VA Posts: 2,661	Also changing to 4.10 gears this winter Like some of you other guys I'm also considering changing from stock to 4.10 gears this winter. Seems like there are several possible sources for 4.10 ring and pinion sets these days. Not sure how they all rate though. I donâ€™t want to end up with a howler just to save a few pennies. Any opinions out there on how aftermarket suppliers like Precision, Yukon and Richmond stack up against OEM gears from Dana in terms of quality, noise and strength? It is my understanding the Dana 44 HD differential in the ZR-1 has a larger diameter pinion shaft than the Dana 44s found in other applications so not all gear sets you see offered will work in our model Dana 44. I havenâ€™t yet quite figured out how best to go about ordering so Iâ€™m sure to get the right ones. Does anybody know the Dana part number for the 4.10 ring & pinion set we should be using? Also, Iâ€™ve heard where some have used Viper gear sets. What is so special about these? and can you order them online anywhere? Any advice from you more experienced forum members is very much appreciated. I'm from just outside of Washington, DC in NoVA and itâ€™s been a challenge finding a competent shop able to do the set up work. Hope you are in better shape where you are located.

12-05-2007	#2
Aurora40 Join Date: May 2005 Location: Leesburg, VA Posts: 2,713	Re: Also changing to 4.10 gears this winter http://forums.corvetteforum.com/show...ht=viper+gears Has some links for buying the Dodge gears. I seem to recall Marc H. uses Dana gears because they are quieter? Would be better to ask him than to go from my memory though. __________________ Bob Saveland Former owner of #2517 [IMG]http://a.random-image.net/aurora40/vette.jpg[/img]

12-05-2007	#3
HIZNHRZ Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Germantown, MD Posts: 738	Re: Also changing to 4.10 gears this winter My ZR1 is in with Marc Haibeck in Chicago. Marc is installing 4:10 gears for me. I have not found the shop in our area to do the install to my satisfaction. Rather than tell you what Marc shared with me, I'd encourage you to get the information direct. Marc Haibeck [mhaibeck@sbcglobal.net]

12-06-2007	#4
blackjack Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: north of montreal Posts: 510	Re: Also changing to 4.10 gears this winter when i changed to 4:10 a few years back,i was told that the viper gear is actually a dana setup sold thru dodge dealer...somebody can confirm this? at the time ,the price in cdn dollar was outrageous,so i bought my gears from man & machine interface...they have an ad somewhere on the zr1net bj

12-08-2007	#5
Aurora40 Join Date: May 2005 Location: Leesburg, VA Posts: 2,713	Re: Also changing to 4.10 gears this winter Hey Phil, When you do find a place and have it done, let us know how it turns out. I've been thinking I might go to 3.73:1 gears if I could pull the pumpkin myself and have the gears done locally. Then the smaller gain over 4.10's wouldn't be so bad as they wouldn't be so costly. I personally prefer the long legs of stock, and think 3.73's would be a nice compromise. Plus the speedo gear is easier and much cheaper to correct than with 4.10's. __________________ Bob Saveland Former owner of #2517 [IMG]http://a.random-image.net/aurora40/vette.jpg[/img]

12-29-2007	#7
Cdn ZR1 Mike Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 38	Re: Also changing to 4.10 gears this winter I've got the Viper 4:10's in mine for the last 6-7 years probably and it has so many 1/4 mile passes I've lost track (previous owner - also my best friend). They are very quiet and no issues thus far. __________________ 1990 ZR1 Ported Intake, IH's and PC'd (JeffVette), 4:10's, SLP air intake, SW headers, X-pipe with flowmasters. Haibeck chip. 12.1 @117mph on GSD-3's. :mrgreen:

12-29-2007	#8
bradslt5 Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: lone pine and mammoth lakes ca. Posts: 544	Re: Also changing to 4.10 gears this winter I have 410s in the blk car but really would like to put 373s in her anyone have 373s that want 410s ?

01-14-2008	#9
1720 Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: toronto Posts: 12	Re: Also changing to 4.10 gears this winter i used the viper gears from a dodge dealer in texas,something like 250.00 its one of the best things i did to mine!!! i love'em!! __________________ 1991 #1720 white on black,4:10,headers,b&b tri-flow,fidanza flywheel,haibeck chip, 1972 rag,ontario orange,4spd.in the process of a full body off resto.

01-21-2008	#10
UKZR1 Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: South East England Posts: 173	Re: Also changing to 4.10 gears this winter My 410's are on their way over now (from Haibeck). Will let you know what I think once they are in __________________ Red/red 90 #1281 (UK) Marc Haibeck 368 B&B, Brembos DRM suspension Known as 'Gixer' on corvettechat.co.uk www.corvetteclips.co.uk