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Old 02-08-2017   #11
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You will need to remove the radiator shroud to free up room in the front of the motor to do the repair.
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Do you mean the radiator shroud, the fan shroud or both? Is this a "nice to have" or a "need to have"

The FSM does not say anything about that?

I just did that repair last weekend and is was a complete time suck, so I'd like to avoid it if necessary.

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Old 02-08-2017   #12
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GC-

Do you mean the radiator shroud, the fan shroud or both? Is this a "nice to have" or a "need to have"

The FSM does not say anything about that?

I just did that repair last weekend and is was a complete time suck, so I'd like to avoid it if necessary.

Thanks!
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Old 02-09-2017   #13
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Well, I MAY have ducked a bullet......

I put the oil cooler hose on last night and took the car out for a "test drive" for about 12 miles at various speeds. Jerry's lines installed without too much trouble. I'm happy with the quality and the fact that I could bend them to route around other hoses so they don't touch.

So, Before I left, there was clearly water/antifreeze residue around the gasket area. I was expecting to see something when I got back

When I got home I did the inspection and found no wetness or residue. I checked two hours later (after cooling a bit) and found nothing. This morning still dry and ZERO drips on the pan. Did the engine heat "burn off" the anti freeze?

My guess is that the wetness was still a left over from when I washed the engine over the weekend? Seems like a long time to still be wet, but I have no other explanation??

It is good to be good, but way better to get lucky.
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Old 02-09-2017   #14
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I had a similar problem with my car after putting on new cooler lines. There was so much oil dripping onto the garage floor a couple of days after the repair, I thought my cooler had a pin hole leak...I took it all out and pressure checked it in my bathtub. went ahead and cleaned the radiator... no problems found...it turned out the lower radiator cross member had so much oil left in it that it was still leaking from there.
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Well, It looks like my 91 #1388 is doing it again and I'll need to replace the water pump at some point soon.

The seeping is undeniable- small but undeniable. I can only imagine what will happen when I pressure up the system when I finish the oil hose in the next day or so. I'm imagining gushes of green coolant combined with a pit in my stomach.

So, how hard is it to replace the water pump? I looked at the shop manual and it look somewhat doable. I looked at the car and if the air inlet is removed along with the front coolant hoses it looks like there is enough room for a hand for some some wrenching. That damn lower radiator hose looks menacing though.....

I've never messed with a serpentine belt (I'm a recovering C3 XFire guy) so the tensionor has made me timid asthe FSM says "flip this and that".

Any guesses on how many hours it would take a somewhat handy guy with a shop manual and healthy dose of anxiety?

I just swapped out the radiator last week and now have moved on to the oil cooler line, following a remount of the INFL REST senors on the frame and a recent complete Bose/EDM and amp swap.

I'm calculating my last months "drive to repair expense ratio" at about $137 per mile.

As Rosanne Rosanna Dana would say (quoting Mr Richard Fader from Ft Lee, New Jersey), "If it isn't one thing, it's another"
How would you feel about helping me with my infl rest sensor. Don gave it a valiant effort but couldn't reset. I'm not a mechanic at all. Would steak dinner do it? Lol. I do have an appt at Cory's Monday.
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How would you feel about helping me with my infl rest sensor. Don gave it a valiant effort but couldn't reset. I'm not a mechanic at all. Would steak dinner do it? Lol. I do have an appt at Cory's Monday.
Happy to help!

Yours is a 90? If I remember those are a bit wonky.

The big thing is to clear your computer memory and history if possible.
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The Texas boy's are a lucky bunch , having Corey in your backyard is a huge plus !!
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Happy to help!

Yours is a 90? If I remember those are a bit wonky.

The big thing is to clear your computer memory and history if possible.
Yeah Don tried that with paper clip and with tool someone on the registry sold him. Didn't work.
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How would you feel about helping me with my infl rest sensor. Don gave it a valiant effort but couldn't reset. I'm not a mechanic at all. Would steak dinner do it? Lol. I do have an appt at Cory's Monday.
Did you clean the air bag frame sensors and mounting points removing all the rust and apply a healthy dose of dialectic grease. The 90s are famous for the INF error? No way to clear a code until that is done. GC
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Old 02-10-2017   #20
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Drivers side was done 4yrs ago. So I'm guessing its passenger side.
Guessing that is what Cory is going to do. It's a bit of a drive, 3 hrs, but I can do it in a day.
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