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Old 11-15-2014   #11
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I was think about going with this kit
http://www.vbandp.com/index.php?opti...d=364&Itemid=1
For that kind of money you could do C6 and have better brakes.
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you could do C6 and have better brakes.
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And the C6 Z06 calipers look COOL!

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Old 11-15-2014   #13
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And the C6 Z06 calipers look COOL!

You mean like these?


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You mean like these?


Can you give me some more detail on your setup?
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You mean like these?
Abso-tively!



Sorry, we didn't mean to sidetrack your thread. My humble findings & opinions:
Grand Sport calipers are an easy swap as they are a straight replacement. Not much
performance improvement but more bling.
C5 calipers are a performance improvement, but will they fit inside your rims?
If they don't and you have to get new rims anyway, why not go all the way with
either C6 Z06 or Willwood/Brembo big boy calipers? 6 pad/piston and larger rotors.
Yep, need adapters, new brake lines, banjos. For me, the hardest piece was adapters
that fit and worked correctly.
It's "being bitten by the mod bug" logic

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Old 11-16-2014   #16
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Can you give me some more detail on your setup?
This configuration uses both front and rear C6Z06 calipers and rotors. The front calipers are pretty straight forward and the conversion is not any different than adapting C5 calipers. Same type adapter. The issue is wheel clearance. However, since I Really like the Z06 wheels, there is no problem there. Using the OEM Z06 rotor, the wheel offset is very close to stock. You'll use C6 brake lines front and rear. Have not found any need to address master cylinder.
There are a couple of alternatives for the rear:

1. Keep stock calipers. These work fine. I did that for over a year and did not have any problem w brakes. Visually, the stock rear calipers and rotor are puny when inside a 19" wheel.

2. Use rear Z06 calipers and rotor w adapter, but lose eBrake or use line-loc.

3. Use Z06 calipers and rotors w Street Shop adapter incorporating C6 eBrake. A bit more involved since it also requires building new eBrake cables to each side. If you search you'll find a thread I recently posted from this past winter on the project.

Again, I think Z06 wheels are great on my car, so I wanted to complete the overall look both mechanically and aesthetically. To me the larger wheels etc. give the car a more hunkered down look. As if it's been dropped although it has not.
The rotors and calipers will add unsprung weight to the car. The stopping power has you never being concerned about how quickly you can come down from speed. You don't need much pedal pressure to slow down.
Finally, forget about using spare. So I unloaded the tire carrier from the rear. Frankly, I didn't have much faith in spare maintaining air anyway. Bought a Continental tire kit in case of puncture.
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This configuration uses both front and rear C6Z06 calipers and rotors. The front calipers are pretty straight forward and the conversion is not any different than adapting C5 calipers. Same type adapter. The issue is wheel clearance. However, since I Really like the Z06 wheels, there is no problem there. Using the OEM Z06 rotor, the wheel offset is very close to stock. You'll use C6 brake lines front and rear. Have not found any need to address master cylinder.
There are a couple of alternatives for the rear:

1. Keep stock calipers. These work fine. I did that for over a year and did not have any problem w brakes. Visually, the stock rear calipers and rotor are puny when inside a 19" wheel.

2. Use rear Z06 calipers and rotor w adapter, but lose eBrake or use line-loc.



3. Use Z06 calipers and rotors w Street Shop adapter incorporating C6 eBrake. A bit more involved since it also requires building new eBrake cables to each side. If you search you'll find a thread I recently posted from this past winter on the project.

Again, I think Z06 wheels are great on my car, so I wanted to complete the overall look both mechanically and aesthetically. To me the larger wheels etc. give the car a more hunkered down look. As if it's been dropped although it has not.
The rotors and calipers will add unsprung weight to the car. The stopping power has you never being concerned about how quickly you can come down from speed. You don't need much pedal pressure to slow down.
Finally, forget about using spare. So I unloaded the tire carrier from the rear. Frankly, I didn't have much faith in spare maintaining air anyway. Bought a Continental tire kit in case of puncture.
Do you think it will fit under 18 inch Shelby wheels?
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Do you think it will fit under 18 inch Shelby wheels?
Not without significant grinding of the front calipers. Think =Jeff= looked at that.
It's not just a question of circumference or drum but also caliper face clearance. The Z06 wheels have split spokes pushed to the outer edge of the wheel. Shelbys hub is inset. However, you can see that tf95 has them using FISKE(?) wheels.
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I'd love to do the c6 setup but it's just no where near my budget.
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and effort


X2

And the C6 Z06 calipers look COOL!
Ted I don't think the C6 ZO6 calipers will fit behind his 18 inch Shelbys. If he sticks with those wheels I don't think spacers, grinding etc will allow them to fit. GC
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