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Old 06-06-2014   #11
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Last time that same situation happened to me I found out I had a weak primary fuel pump. Fuel Pressure looked good static but could not keep up with requirement. Replaced pump and it would now rev passed 7K.
Ah! Good point. A partially plugged fuel filter and a bad secondary pump was revealed by taping a fuel pressure gauge to the windshield. At WOT pressure would drop to around 43#...NOT good. Filter and a pump fixed it.

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Old 06-06-2014   #12
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Spark controller? Are you stating a DIS or a Quad Driver?
Pardon my ignorance,Darryl,but what is a Quad Driver? Never heard that term,before.
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Old 06-06-2014   #13
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I have a fuel preassure gauge mounted on the 'a' pillar. Good fuel preassure. I have the sheet metal insert in the accordion air intake. Marc sent me a known good DIS module. I also have a Tech-1, and there are no codes. I talked with Marc today and he wants me to change the 'Crank Positioning' sensor. I will do that tonight or tomorrow. Wish me luck. Thanks for all of the ideas!

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Old 06-06-2014   #14
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Pardon my ignorance,Darryl,but what is a Quad Driver? Never heard that term,before.
They mount next to the frame and the battery and control the Secondaries in concert with the DIS. The Quad drivers come in pairs and command 4 injectors each of the secondaries hence the name "Quad" I forget which year no longer has them but it might be 93 and up with the 405HP release.
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Old 06-06-2014   #15
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I have a fuel preassure gauge mounted on the 'a' pillar. Good fuel preassure. I have the sheet metal insert in the accordion air intake. Marc sent me a known good DIS module. I also have a Tech-1, and there are no codes. I talked with Marc today and he wants me to change the 'Crank Positioning' sensor. I will do that tonight or tomorrow. Wish me luck. Thanks for all of the ideas!

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Quad drivers or fuel filter would be my next guesses. Crank sensor is an easy replacement.
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They mount next to the frame and the battery and control the Secondaries in concert with the DIS. The Quad drivers come in pairs and command 4 injectors each of the secondaries hence the name "Quad" I forget which year no longer has them but it might be 93 and up with the 405HP release.
Any have a photo of a Quad Driver? I know what a DIS looks like.
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Quad Driver AKA Secondary Injector Relays. Come in pairs. Rare as hensteeth. Long NLA Henco en Canada









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Old 06-06-2014   #18
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When I read the FSM it says that the quad driver runs the secondary injectors. If I am running Marc's chip wouldn't the injectors be running all the time? Not just after 5000rpm? If this was the problem, wouldn't the rpm's just rise slower, and not just cut out? Don't know much about these just asking. Ya all keep thinking out there.

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When I read the FSM it says that the quad driver runs the secondary injectors. If I am running Marc's chip wouldn't the injectors be running all the time? Not just after 5000rpm? If this was the problem, wouldn't the rpm's just rise slower, and not just cut out? Don't know much about these just asking. Ya all keep thinking out there.

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They still command the secondary injectors. Don't know I haven't experienced what you have either before. Check the Crank sensor and the fuel filter first which are easy to do. This is just one of the possibilities since to me it appears your secondary's are not engaging. Since these fire secondary injectors its a good guess.
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I will be changing crank sensor and fuel filter tomorrow. I don't know what to do about the quad drivers. Keep your fingers crossed!

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