Air Filter - Page 2 - ZR-1 Net Registry Forums

csavaglio · 11-13-2013

Years ago, in my '97 Trans Am at the track, I ran several back to back runs, flipping between the paper and K&N filters. The K&N was consistently a bit more than a tenth quicker.

However, I've also seen flow numbers that suggest, in our application, the paper air filter and the K&N flow about the same.

I run K&Ns in both my LT4 daily driver and the ZR1.......mostly based on money. I live in an area of the country that has filters a mess in 5-10k miles. With a new paper filter costing about 25 bucks now, every 2 to 3 changes, the K&N has paid for itself, especially since recharge kits last a long time if you only put the amount of oil you're supposed to on.

I kept the K&N that happen to come in my CE that I traded on the Z and put a paper one in its place.

As long as you don't over oil it, you should be fine. I usually blot new ones with a paper towel to get the excess oil off.

Chris

JimZRyd · 11-13-2013

Thanks guys! Feel like the ones who have problems over oiled the filter. With all I've read and looking at Marks site too the flow rates are pretty close so as to not be that different. It might make sense too to be able to just wash and reuse the K&N and save that $ for other mods

Schrade · 11-13-2013

The budget brand re-chargeable filter is SPECTRE. I got 2 of 'em for my little Nissan 4-holer. It WILL scoot...

LGAFF · 11-13-2013

So does the filter cause a velocity drop that when combined with the flattened housing impacts hp.....would an area of greater volume behind the filter help?

Or would we see this result regardless?

Thoughts

mike100 · 11-14-2013

There would be a pressure difference with restriction. one could hook up a slack tube manometer with water and measure pressure drop with different filters. Doesn't sound like there would be much difference on an open filter c4 intake from what previous experience leads us to believe.

JimZRyd · 11-14-2013

Quote:

Originally Posted by LGAFF

So does the filter cause a velocity drop that when combined with the flattened housing impacts hp.....would an area of greater volume behind the filter help?

Or would we see this result regardless?

Thoughts

I've often wondered about the differences between the intake designs of the C4 vs C5/6. Stock they are similar with the C5/6 having more area/volume behind the filter. Most of the aftermarket versions are more of a straight through design which I would think would be less restrictive than the acute bending design of stock. Interesting.

11-13-2013	#11
csavaglio Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: Colorado Springs, CO Posts: 160	Re: Air Filter Years ago, in my '97 Trans Am at the track, I ran several back to back runs, flipping between the paper and K&N filters. The K&N was consistently a bit more than a tenth quicker. However, I've also seen flow numbers that suggest, in our application, the paper air filter and the K&N flow about the same. I run K&Ns in both my LT4 daily driver and the ZR1.......mostly based on money. I live in an area of the country that has filters a mess in 5-10k miles. With a new paper filter costing about 25 bucks now, every 2 to 3 changes, the K&N has paid for itself, especially since recharge kits last a long time if you only put the amount of oil you're supposed to on. I kept the K&N that happen to come in my CE that I traded on the Z and put a paper one in its place. As long as you don't over oil it, you should be fine. I usually blot new ones with a paper towel to get the excess oil off. Chris

11-13-2013	#12
JimZRyd Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Florence, SC Posts: 1,343	Re: Air Filter Thanks guys! Feel like the ones who have problems over oiled the filter. With all I've read and looking at Marks site too the flow rates are pretty close so as to not be that different. It might make sense too to be able to just wash and reuse the K&N and save that $ for other mods __________________ Jim Zorgias 1994 ZR-1 Admiral Blue/Black #245 1996 Callaway Supernatural 450 1990 Callaway Supernatural 490 / CR-1 #7

11-13-2013	#13
Schrade Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: NC Posts: 1,786	Re: Air Filter The budget brand re-chargeable filter is SPECTRE. I got 2 of 'em for my little Nissan 4-holer. It WILL scoot... __________________ I'm getting my snappics / threads removed blindly as fast as I can, to get in compliance with copyright / license TOS on the boards here (lots of FSM pages and other copyright / license violations on my part; sorry guys). And thanks to all the guys who didn't whine when I posted those FSM copyrighted / licensed stuff in my threads... ( :thumbsup: [b]and to think I complied with a mod's request to delete a pic of him in a Challenge Car in NCM Museum, so he wouldn't get in hot water)[/b] Thanks to several guys here for sending parts FREE; BearlyFlying, WeGone, Geezer, GoldCylon, and more there, TonyD, mike100, fletchusmc... 1990 #2794; 4L60e Stage V by RPM Transmission, TCI Dedicated TCM, OBX Stainless, Power Effects 3" [IMG]https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-GHpfzty7DVU/UQn-0Ru2xAI/AAAAAAAAA14/08mz1p4QLD4/s445/Screenshot-5.png[/IMG]

11-13-2013	#14
LGAFF Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Crystal Lake, IL Posts: 7,194	Re: Air Filter So does the filter cause a velocity drop that when combined with the flattened housing impacts hp.....would an area of greater volume behind the filter help? Or would we see this result regardless? Thoughts __________________ LGAFF 90 #966-150K miles-sold 92 #234-sold 1987 Callaway TT #17 1991 ZR-1 #1359

11-14-2013	#15
mike100 Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: San Marcos CA Posts: 1,802	Re: Air Filter There would be a pressure difference with restriction. one could hook up a slack tube manometer with water and measure pressure drop with different filters. Doesn't sound like there would be much difference on an open filter c4 intake from what previous experience leads us to believe.