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Old 03-24-2007   #11
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I don't know the exact number, but the primary and secondary have the same flow rating. So it won't be something like 24 and 19.
They are 21#... doing mine soon, after I get moved into the new house in Chicago.

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Old 03-24-2007   #12
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They are 21#... doing mine soon, after I get moved into the new house in Chicago.



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Old 03-24-2007   #13
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Looks like I won't be far from you, Bryan... I bought a place in Grays Lake.

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Old 03-25-2007   #14
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if your engine light comes on at the top of the r range you could be having a secondary vaccume issue. i has your systoms and it was a leak to the manifold dif meter that sits under the ecm..it looks like a mapsensor
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Looks like I won't be far from you, Bryan... I bought a place in Grays Lake.

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Old 03-27-2007   #16
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You could be losing your secondary fuel pump...basically you're running out of gas because the primary pump can't keep up wit the demand of all 16 injectors...works OK with 8...but 16 is to much of a load...that's why we have two fuel pumps. Make sure you remember to write down the code(s) you get when you get your SES light...so you can post them here...
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Old 03-27-2007   #17
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You could be losing your secondary fuel pump...basically you're running out of gas because the primary pump can't keep up wit the demand of all 16 injectors...works OK with 8...but 16 is to much of a load...that's why we have two fuel pumps. Make sure you remember to write down the code(s) you get when you get your SES light...so you can post them here...
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Old 03-28-2007   #18
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You guys posted some great thoughts on this issue.

I am going to do more testing before I say that the injectors are bad, that was just my first guess.

The fuel pump is a good thought too. Where do I start to test that? How can I determine if it is good or bad? I know someone posted it before but what are the part numbers for it, or should I say for that truck pump and the years for that truck pump that works?

Well my first step will be to get it running and take it out. I will see what is happening and see if it throws the light.

I did notice sometimes, it did not feel like it had full power and it did not throw the light, but a few times it did.

I was going to check the vaccuum lines but it appears that the hose is hooked up to the map sensor, but not sure if it is hooked up to the other side.

I will check this stuff out and post my results back here.

Thanks to all for the ideas and help.
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Old 03-28-2007   #19
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If the SES light is a "hard" or stored code reading it will give you a starting point. The extra MAP under the ECM is used to verify vacuum to the secondary system and the ECM uses it to turn on the pump as a back up vac source during extended 2* operation, or low vacuum conditions like WOT.

Fuel, if the pumps are not up to it you could get a lean signal from the O2 sensors but I'm not sure if we are in closed loop during 2* operation if WOT is not achieved. 55 psi is the target figure in the KOEO test, and 48 to 55 with the motor at idle speed. Both pumps will run during the KOEO test, you have to pull either fuse to do the KOEO test on each pump. Test primary pump, then secondary pump after teasting both pumps in the KOEO test. You could discon the relays instead of the fuses as the 2*(?) fuse is up by the CDM box and a bit of a PIA to get to. I would change the F/F before doing the pump test.


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Old 03-28-2007   #20
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Crap, you know, last year I tested the fuel pumps, but I forgot the readings I got.

I thought they were in the good range, but I will test them again first.

Unfortunatily, the car is not in a garage right now and its going to be raining all week. I will chevk into that when the weather clears up.

Dont worry, I am hopefully going to buy a house this year and will get a garage for it. I hate leaving it outside. But being single, it is hard to find a house I can afford nearby.
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