May still need to replace injectors - ZR-1 Net Registry Forums

oricale · 05-11-2012

Even though I pulled the secondary injectors and it fixed the missing, I still feel its a bit rough at idle,..idle is high and I think its running good BUT missing something,..we know the secondary injectors had at least 1 failure,..but I think the primaries have a failure too...I have one plug that is not clean(ALL others are great),.. here it is...

This plug is in the #4 position...

I spoke to JON at FIC..He is willing to sell me the stainless injectors at current price and refund me the cost of these...(Ill pay the difference)

Question:

does these symptoms look of a bad injector?...seem like it to me or is it coolant????

Stainless injectors or accel????

Demps · 05-11-2012

Stainless if he credits you. I have Accels in two and they perform well but folks are pleased with the SS ones too. Use the credit.

Ted

oricale · 05-11-2012

BAM!!!

New stainless Steel injectors on the way overnight!...putting them in Sun/Mon

I HOPE this takes care of the rough IDLE!/bit of smoke/loss of a little power....

ALSO:

Has anyone noticed the tentioner(belt)moving from a (1 o'clock postion to a 3'o clock position??) almost if not touching the harmonic balancer????????

what would be causing that??....I bought a brand new belt and it still did it...and I am pretty sure the tentioner is on correctly.....

PhillipsLT5 · 05-11-2012

I think if it were coolant, the plug would be white/clean/from steam

oricale · 05-11-2012

True..thats what I thought!

scottfab · 05-11-2012

Quote:

Originally Posted by PhillipsLT5

I think if it were coolant, the plug would be white/clean/from steam

Absolutely true. I know this because of my Explorer just recently.
Not only plugs but cylinder and valve heads were ALL steam cleaned!

Even if the SS injectors don't clean up all issues they make future issues
easier to isolate since you can rule out the injectors (usually)

GOLDCYLON · 05-11-2012

Stainless all the way its a no brainer

VetteMed · 05-12-2012

Re: tensioner, it is normal for there to be some movement. It's pretty difficult to put one of these on incorrectly, there's an alignment tab that fits into a recess on the water pump housing. It is possible for the spring to break or fatigue, which could cause excessive oscillation, but it's likely that you're seeing normal tensioner behavior.

Paul Workman · 05-12-2012

Quote:

Originally Posted by scottfab

Absolutely true. I know this because of my Explorer just recently.
Not only plugs but cylinder and valve heads were ALL steam cleaned!

Even if the SS injectors don't clean up all issues they make future issues
easier to isolate since you can rule out the injectors (usually)

Or, do as Marc Haibeck did on one of mine... Tasted it for sweetness!!!!

P.

oricale · 05-12-2012

that was the first thing I did!

05-11-2012	#1
oricale Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: STAFFORD VA, Posts: 576	May still need to replace injectors Even though I pulled the secondary injectors and it fixed the missing, I still feel its a bit rough at idle,..idle is high and I think its running good BUT missing something,..we know the secondary injectors had at least 1 failure,..but I think the primaries have a failure too...I have one plug that is not clean(ALL others are great),.. here it is... This plug is in the #4 position... I spoke to JON at FIC..He is willing to sell me the stainless injectors at current price and refund me the cost of these...(Ill pay the difference) Question: does these symptoms look of a bad injector?...seem like it to me or is it coolant???? Stainless injectors or accel???? __________________ [B][I][COLOR=red]1990 ZR1[/COLOR][COLOR=black] [U]#00077 [COLOR=red]RED[/COLOR]/[COLOR=red]RED[/COLOR] (10Y022 PEP CAR) [/U][/COLOR][/I][/B][B][I][COLOR=red]1991 ZR1[/COLOR][COLOR=black] [U]#00517 ("Irene")[COLOR=red]WHITE[/COLOR]/[COLOR=red]RED-SOLD:cry:[/COLOR] [B][/B] [/U][/COLOR][/I][/B][B][I][COLOR=red]1992 ZR1[/COLOR][COLOR=black] [U]#00445("The Revenant")[COLOR=red][COLOR="Black"]BLACK [/COLOR][/COLOR]/[COLOR=red]RED(2016 T.O.D!) [/COLOR] [/U][/COLOR][/I][/B] [B][I][COLOR=red]2009 [COLOR=red]Z06!![COLOR=black]BLK/BLK rare Linen interior[/COLOR] 707HP!![/COLOR] [/COLOR][/I][/B] [B][I][COLOR=red]2006[/COLOR] BLK/BLK Z51 (Just SICK FAST!)SOLD)[/I][/B] [B][I]1996 BLK/BLK LT4 Grnsprt(sold...Twice!)[/I][/B] [B][I]1991 RED/REDL98(Fell off the shipping truck:([/I][/B] [B][I]1980 BLK/RED L82(Sold)[/I][/B] [B][I][B][I]1990[/I][/B] RED/BLK(sold.....In Japan)[/I][/B] [I][COLOR=black][B][I]2006[/I][/B][/COLOR][/I] [COLOR=red]Mustang GT[/COLOR] ([B][I]mach 1[/I][/B])[B](sold)[/B] [COLOR=black][B][I]1969[/I][/B][/COLOR] [COLOR=red]Mach[/COLOR] [B][I]1(sold in Japan)[/I][/B] [COLOR=black][B][I]1969[/I][/B][/COLOR] [COLOR=red]Mach[/COLOR] [B][I]1#2(sold)[/I][/B] [B][I]WAZOO Member...[/I][/B] [url]www.evolution-motorsport.com[/url] facebook/evolutionmotorsportengineering Your Local [url]www.Amsoil.com[/url] dealer/user.. Victory Loves Preparation

05-11-2012	#2
Demps Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Niceville Posts: 998	Re: May still need to replace injectors Stainless if he credits you. I have Accels in two and they perform well but folks are pleased with the SS ones too. Use the credit. Ted

05-11-2012	#3
oricale Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: STAFFORD VA, Posts: 576	Re: May still need to replace injectors BAM!!! New stainless Steel injectors on the way overnight!...putting them in Sun/Mon I HOPE this takes care of the rough IDLE!/bit of smoke/loss of a little power.... ALSO: Has anyone noticed the tentioner(belt)moving from a (1 o'clock postion to a 3'o clock position??) almost if not touching the harmonic balancer???????? what would be causing that??....I bought a brand new belt and it still did it...and I am pretty sure the tentioner is on correctly..... __________________ [B][I][COLOR=red]1990 ZR1[/COLOR][COLOR=black] [U]#00077 [COLOR=red]RED[/COLOR]/[COLOR=red]RED[/COLOR] (10Y022 PEP CAR) [/U][/COLOR][/I][/B][B][I][COLOR=red]1991 ZR1[/COLOR][COLOR=black] [U]#00517 ("Irene")[COLOR=red]WHITE[/COLOR]/[COLOR=red]RED-SOLD:cry:[/COLOR] [B][/B] [/U][/COLOR][/I][/B][B][I][COLOR=red]1992 ZR1[/COLOR][COLOR=black] [U]#00445("The Revenant")[COLOR=red][COLOR="Black"]BLACK [/COLOR][/COLOR]/[COLOR=red]RED(2016 T.O.D!) [/COLOR] [/U][/COLOR][/I][/B] [B][I][COLOR=red]2009 [COLOR=red]Z06!![COLOR=black]BLK/BLK rare Linen interior[/COLOR] 707HP!![/COLOR] [/COLOR][/I][/B] [B][I][COLOR=red]2006[/COLOR] BLK/BLK Z51 (Just SICK FAST!)SOLD)[/I][/B] [B][I]1996 BLK/BLK LT4 Grnsprt(sold...Twice!)[/I][/B] [B][I]1991 RED/REDL98(Fell off the shipping truck:([/I][/B] [B][I]1980 BLK/RED L82(Sold)[/I][/B] [B][I][B][I]1990[/I][/B] RED/BLK(sold.....In Japan)[/I][/B] [I][COLOR=black][B][I]2006[/I][/B][/COLOR][/I] [COLOR=red]Mustang GT[/COLOR] ([B][I]mach 1[/I][/B])[B](sold)[/B] [COLOR=black][B][I]1969[/I][/B][/COLOR] [COLOR=red]Mach[/COLOR] [B][I]1(sold in Japan)[/I][/B] [COLOR=black][B][I]1969[/I][/B][/COLOR] [COLOR=red]Mach[/COLOR] [B][I]1#2(sold)[/I][/B] [B][I]WAZOO Member...[/I][/B] [url]www.evolution-motorsport.com[/url] facebook/evolutionmotorsportengineering Your Local [url]www.Amsoil.com[/url] dealer/user.. Victory Loves Preparation Last edited by oricale; 05-11-2012 at 11:47 AM.

05-11-2012	#5
oricale Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: STAFFORD VA, Posts: 576	Re: May still need to replace injectors True..thats what I thought! __________________ [B][I][COLOR=red]1990 ZR1[/COLOR][COLOR=black] [U]#00077 [COLOR=red]RED[/COLOR]/[COLOR=red]RED[/COLOR] (10Y022 PEP CAR) [/U][/COLOR][/I][/B][B][I][COLOR=red]1991 ZR1[/COLOR][COLOR=black] [U]#00517 ("Irene")[COLOR=red]WHITE[/COLOR]/[COLOR=red]RED-SOLD:cry:[/COLOR] [B][/B] [/U][/COLOR][/I][/B][B][I][COLOR=red]1992 ZR1[/COLOR][COLOR=black] [U]#00445("The Revenant")[COLOR=red][COLOR="Black"]BLACK [/COLOR][/COLOR]/[COLOR=red]RED(2016 T.O.D!) [/COLOR] [/U][/COLOR][/I][/B] [B][I][COLOR=red]2009 [COLOR=red]Z06!![COLOR=black]BLK/BLK rare Linen interior[/COLOR] 707HP!![/COLOR] [/COLOR][/I][/B] [B][I][COLOR=red]2006[/COLOR] BLK/BLK Z51 (Just SICK FAST!)SOLD)[/I][/B] [B][I]1996 BLK/BLK LT4 Grnsprt(sold...Twice!)[/I][/B] [B][I]1991 RED/REDL98(Fell off the shipping truck:([/I][/B] [B][I]1980 BLK/RED L82(Sold)[/I][/B] [B][I][B][I]1990[/I][/B] RED/BLK(sold.....In Japan)[/I][/B] [I][COLOR=black][B][I]2006[/I][/B][/COLOR][/I] [COLOR=red]Mustang GT[/COLOR] ([B][I]mach 1[/I][/B])[B](sold)[/B] [COLOR=black][B][I]1969[/I][/B][/COLOR] [COLOR=red]Mach[/COLOR] [B][I]1(sold in Japan)[/I][/B] [COLOR=black][B][I]1969[/I][/B][/COLOR] [COLOR=red]Mach[/COLOR] [B][I]1#2(sold)[/I][/B] [B][I]WAZOO Member...[/I][/B] [url]www.evolution-motorsport.com[/url] facebook/evolutionmotorsportengineering Your Local [url]www.Amsoil.com[/url] dealer/user.. Victory Loves Preparation

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05-11-2012	#4
PhillipsLT5 Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Scottsdale, AZ Posts: 2,452	Re: May still need to replace injectors I think if it were coolant, the plug would be white/clean/from steam

05-12-2012	#8
VetteMed Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Orlando, FL Posts: 1,828	Re: May still need to replace injectors Re: tensioner, it is normal for there to be some movement. It's pretty difficult to put one of these on incorrectly, there's an alignment tab that fits into a recess on the water pump housing. It is possible for the spring to break or fatigue, which could cause excessive oscillation, but it's likely that you're seeing normal tensioner behavior. __________________ 2004 Z06/Z16 LeMans Commemorative Edition 1991 ZR-1 #302 White/Gray (sold) 1991 ZR-1 #1147 Red/Saddle (sold)