New C4 Frame Braces

[tomtom72]

Okay, I waited till now to be a non-PIA....but I can't stand it any longer.

Hey Jeff, so what are your driving impressions of these braces?
Do they make life on the street a bit tougher? What about if you need to jack up the car, or put her up on j-stands?

[-=Jeff=-]

Originally Posted by tomtom72

Okay, I waited till now to be a non-PIA....but I can't stand it any longer.

Hey Jeff, so what are your driving impressions of these braces?
Do they make life on the street a bit tougher? What about if you need to jack up the car, or put her up on j-stands?

Believe it or not, i have not had time to drive it since I drove it home in the rain after the install, I was out most of last week and been busy since i have been home. I WILL drive it Thursday Friday and Saturday so I will get you a better feel for them then

I believe I should be able to jack the car still, but having a kwiklift I don't use stand much. but I have yet to test it.. Soon, I hope

[Pete]

Originally Posted by tomtom72

Okay, I waited till now to be a non-PIA....but I can't stand it any longer.

Hey Jeff, so what are your driving impressions of these braces?
Do they make life on the street a bit tougher? What about if you need to jack up the car, or put her up on j-stands?

Yeah, what he said.

I would also like to know how they work.
How Much?
Have we got a price on these?
if not
Why haven't we got a price on these is it top secret.

Pete

[-=Jeff=-]

Originally Posted by Pete

Yeah, what he said.

I would also like to know how they work.
How Much?
Have we got a price on these?
if not
Why haven't we got a price on these is it top secret.

Pete

I an trying.. I have been busy with work ( out of town last week) spent time with kids on Saturday and then family stuff on Sunday.. last 2 days called for rain, so i did not drive my vette (although no rain so far)

As for price, I don't know the price, I will try to call jason when time permits or I will find out on thursday.

[rkreigh]

gordon showed me these at carlisle last year and glad they are coming out for sale!

read Dave M.'s book (corvette from the inside)

c4 in early design stage wasn't going to have a targa, it was a "design change" that gave the c4 chassis a "flex point" that leads to loss of chassis stiffness with the top off (and not all that great with it in! vice the c5/6!!!)

this mod should "shore up the design flaw" just like beam plate and other little tweak.

for sure I run with the top off lots (but not much without my targa truss!)

but even with the top in this should stiffen up the car to help the suspension do a better job. if you look at the c5/6 "tube" in lieu of the c beam and the improvements made the frame itself, you can see where they engineered out the flex points in the c4 and made the c5 many times stiffer

c6 is stiffer still. when you can reduce the chassis flex, you can really optimize the handling, reduce spring rates, gain consistency, plant the HP, all kinds of good benefits. Gordon and I talked about this for quite a bit but like many things, I promsied not to say much until he got his patent and decided to market it. sure glad he did!! I've been dying to see this and try it out. my bet (not for sure obviously) is that this is another "simple mod" that will minimally increase weight, but really help stiffen the car.

I often thought of some "weld in" stiffeners that would reduce the "hinge point" which is just ahead of the front of the door where the chassis bends in, but there isn't a whole bunch of room there

this seems like a very logical and well thought out design. rods in "tension" are very light, and should help stiffen things up.

come on vette2vett price those suckers out!

looking forward to more reports and thanks very much for posting up the pics. nice work.

[HAWAIIZR-1]

-=JEFF=-,

How about asking them about a group buy for the ZR-1 folks?

[-=Jeff=-]

Originally Posted by HAWAIIZR-1

-=JEFF=-,

How about asking them about a group buy for the ZR-1 folks?

good idea.. I will ask on Thursday when I see him.. fair enough?

[HAWAIIZR-1]

Originally Posted by -=Jeff=-

good idea.. I will ask on Thursday when I see him.. fair enough?

Okay, thanks.......greatly appreciated!!!

[tomtom72]

If there is a "group buy" I would be very interested....

only one "but" in my equation is the Q about the j-stands and jacking up the car. That is a major concern for those of us that work "al fresco" ....you know us "homeless" vette owners...


I'll bet you can't wait to try some road work with these things Jeff!

[-=Jeff=-]

Originally Posted by tomtom72

If there is a "group buy" I would be very interested....

only one "but" in my equation is the Q about the j-stands and jacking up the car. That is a major concern for those of us that work "al fresco" ....you know us "homeless" vette owners...


I'll bet you can't wait to try some road work with these things Jeff!

yeah looking forward to tomorrow, although thinking Roof will be on in the AM